How was I able to install macOS Ventura with low disk space?

When upgrading to Catalina as well as Monterey, I had only about 20 GB free disk space and the software upgrade could not be completed without freeing up space. This time too, I had only about 18 GB free disk space, which reduced to about 13 GB free space after downloading macOS Ventura. I was expecting to see the same warning as before, but this time the upgrade proceeded without any warnings and completed successfully.


Any ideas how that happened?


Unlike before, I had connected my external SSD to the laptop to create a Time Machine backup before the update. Did the system use free space on my external SSD to complete the update process?

MacBook Pro 13″, macOS 13.0

Posted on Oct 25, 2022 10:48 PM

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Posted on Oct 26, 2022 3:09 AM

Time Machine Backup, if Not Run Frequently, will generate Snap Shots which will be stored on the Internal Drive of this computer.


They will remain there until the External Drive is actually attached to the computer and TM Backup is run.


Thereby, the Snap Shots are effectively Purged from the Internal Drive after they have been moved to the TM Backup Designated Drive.


In your case " Unlike before, I had connected my external SSD to the laptop to create a Time Machine backup before the update."


You lucked out this time


It is suggested to keep at least 15%  to 20% of the Drive Total Capacity as Empty Space for good operations of the computer and for additional updates to Ventura to download, expand and install.



\tmutil listlocalsnapshots /


The Terminal will show a list of local snapshots with names


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Oct 26, 2022 3:09 AM in response to Sridhar Ananthanarayanan

Time Machine Backup, if Not Run Frequently, will generate Snap Shots which will be stored on the Internal Drive of this computer.


They will remain there until the External Drive is actually attached to the computer and TM Backup is run.


Thereby, the Snap Shots are effectively Purged from the Internal Drive after they have been moved to the TM Backup Designated Drive.


In your case " Unlike before, I had connected my external SSD to the laptop to create a Time Machine backup before the update."


You lucked out this time


It is suggested to keep at least 15%  to 20% of the Drive Total Capacity as Empty Space for good operations of the computer and for additional updates to Ventura to download, expand and install.



\tmutil listlocalsnapshots /


The Terminal will show a list of local snapshots with names


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Oct 26, 2022 3:34 AM in response to Owl-53

"Time Machine Backup, if Not Run Frequently, will generate Snap Shots which will be stored on the Internal Drive of this computer.




They will remain there until the External Drive is actually attached to the computer and TM Backup is run.




Thereby, the Snap Shots are effectively Purged from the Internal Drive after they have been moved to the TM Backup Designated Drive."


That explains the free space regained. My last TM backup was over a month ago.


I do try and keep my OS partition about 25% free. With one of the recent updates to macOS, they moved the cloud accounts (OneDrive, Google Drive, etc.) to the OS partition. I had configured them on a different partition separate from the OS, but after that update all cloud files were automatically moved to the OS partition. This reduced the free space I used to have before the change.


But anyways, I still think that Ventura is not as major an update that Catalina was. And it probably requires lesser free space compared to both Catalina and Monterey. Currently I have close to 30 GB free space on the OS partition, which should be plenty sufficient for any updates to Ventura.


Thanks for this very useful info.

Oct 26, 2022 5:34 AM in response to Sridhar Ananthanarayanan

Since you had already upgraded to Monterey, the install space required for Ventura was much smaller.

Major changes occurred in Monterey which required a large amount of free space to shuffle things around. The changes in Ventura from Monterey were not as drastic and didn’t require all of the extra free space.

If you had tried to upgrade from Catalina to Ventura, it may have needed more space available.

The warning wasn’t about having enough space afterwards, it was having enough free space to shuffle everything around during the installation.

Oct 26, 2022 12:10 AM in response to Yer_Man

No, I didn't. I wanted to do it after downloading Ventura, so I could include the OS also in the backup. But the system automatically rebooted after the download was completed. This is something that should not happen. Users should be allowed to decide when they want to run the update.


My guess is that the system already identified disposable files and space to be regained (in this case about 12 GB), and this is probably why no low disk warning was issued, and the update completed successfully.

Oct 26, 2022 5:32 AM in response to Owl-53

Be it Windows or Mac, my OS is always on a separate partition that is used exclusively by the OS. All my files and personal data are always on a separate partition. This has both security and other very specific, useful benefits with no disadvantages.


It doesn't matter how many partitions you have on your internal disc. It makes no difference from efficiency point of view as long as there is sufficient free space in each partition.


One other reason I have multiple partitions is because I also have Windows installed on my Mac using Bootcamp. They both run really well and I have a partition in exFAT (on the internal disk) where I save a lot of my files so I can access them from either OS.



My setup has been like this for 3 years now since I bought my laptop. Everything runs absolutely fine. I have even formatted, resized, repartitioned my disk several times during this period. This includes installing a fresh copy of the OS and restoring/ migrating data afterwards when there was a low disk space problem. There has never been any issue. These activities don't damage the hardware in any way.


Of course, I do backup everything to my external SSD first before playing around.

Oct 26, 2022 5:54 AM in response to Barney-15E

I thought so too. Good that this year the update process was super smooth. In the previous two years, I had to install a fresh copy from recovery and then migrate all the data. This meant the Launchpad had to be redone, accounts had to be signed back in, cloud files had to resync, etc. .... basically a lot of useless work avoided this time.

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