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FaceTime and SMS messaging temporarily went to an unknown user

My dad has an iPhone 11 with a phone number that is part of my Verizon account. I FaceTimed him on the usual number, and a stranger answered. That stranger then texted me FROM MY DAD'S VERIZON PHONE NUMBER, "You are calling wrong person." I called my dad on his landline and asked if he could FaceTime me. He successfully FaceTimed me FROM THAT SAME NUMBER. Then I asked if my dad could send me a test text FROM THAT NUMBER, and he did so successfully. Now, in the text chain with my dad, it's me and my dad for, like, two years, then a rando text, "You are calling wrong person" then me and my dad again. I'm about to embark on the project of changing my dad's Apple ID, which given that he has never used it for anything and doesn't know how to unlock his phone, promises to be a project.


Verizon's best theory was: Someone between 11:00AM this morning and 3:45PM this afternoon was forwarding my dad's apple I.D. to another device then turned off call forwarding when we connected.


Apple's response was: The text was sent from a Verizon SMS phone number, not an apple I.D., therefore, it is Verizon's problem but I should reset his Apple I.D. just in case.


Both parties agree that the phone cannot be cloned and the phone itself is not likely hacked. (To be frank, there's literally nothing on my dad's phone to hack. He doesn't use it for anything except calling me.)


As I have now spoken with 3 incredulous tech support people who have reviewed my account and the texts in question and are FLUMMOXED, I throw it out to the Apple Community. What? How? Why? Please and thank you.

Posted on Nov 13, 2022 6:44 PM

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Posted on Nov 13, 2022 7:23 PM

This is possible if the so-called "stranger" had access to your dad's Apple ID, Password and the device itself at any point in time in the past.


He could have logged into his device using your dad's Apple ID and Password. Then upon access to your dad's device, he could have enabled "Text Message Forwarding" to his device.


He can now text and call anyone using your dad's Phone number whenever he desires to do so. He will now have access to all of your Dad's messages. For this, the "stranger" need not be in the same network as your dad.

If he has received your Dad's FaceTime call his device must be on the same network as your dad's device. This brings me to the point that he is not a total stranger.


You need to take three actions.

  1. Look for a strange device under https://appleid.apple.com using your dad's Apple ID credentials. If found Remove the device.
  2. Ask your dad to change his Apple ID password.
  3. Ask your dad to go into Settings > Messages > Text Message Forwarding > [Look for any strange device] and disable it.


Now, make a FaceTime Video or Audio call to your dad. Only your dad can/will answer it!





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Nov 13, 2022 7:23 PM in response to SentfrommyMac

This is possible if the so-called "stranger" had access to your dad's Apple ID, Password and the device itself at any point in time in the past.


He could have logged into his device using your dad's Apple ID and Password. Then upon access to your dad's device, he could have enabled "Text Message Forwarding" to his device.


He can now text and call anyone using your dad's Phone number whenever he desires to do so. He will now have access to all of your Dad's messages. For this, the "stranger" need not be in the same network as your dad.

If he has received your Dad's FaceTime call his device must be on the same network as your dad's device. This brings me to the point that he is not a total stranger.


You need to take three actions.

  1. Look for a strange device under https://appleid.apple.com using your dad's Apple ID credentials. If found Remove the device.
  2. Ask your dad to change his Apple ID password.
  3. Ask your dad to go into Settings > Messages > Text Message Forwarding > [Look for any strange device] and disable it.


Now, make a FaceTime Video or Audio call to your dad. Only your dad can/will answer it!





Nov 14, 2022 7:40 AM in response to SravanKrA

Got it and will do, but the hitch here is that my dad is 81 and almost never leaves the house. His phone is basically in factory default condition. He has no installed apps, and I am the only contact in his phone. The only app he uses is FaceTime. If it was ever unattended in public, which seems highly unlikely, it would have been unattended extremely briefly, and the place where the theft occurred should be easy to identify. He lives independently in a single family home, but he is not a very social person so does not have visitors to the house.


As I do not live nearby, resetting his password is going to be a long project, but I will definitely do that. Is there any way for someone to take an Apple ID without physical access to his phone?

FaceTime and SMS messaging temporarily went to an unknown user

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