How is Music supposed to be used?

I've been subscribed to Music for about a year now. The quality of the audio was a huge step up, and is to be commended. However, I've found the apps to be very difficult to use.


For example (on the desktop app), Browse is of no use whatsoever, except if I scroll down and go to Browse by Category (though this option doesn't appear to be available on the TV app. It does appear to be duplicated on the Search page on desktop, though). Otherwise there is literally nothing of interest to me on the page - all the music listed is mainstream pop being pushed by the major labels that I don't listen to at all, which doesn't seem to be a very good use of app real estate. Similarly, Listen Now, although it's responsive to what I've been listening to, is a fairly ragbag and constantly changing collection of generated suggestions. For example, part of the page has recently been taken up by a playlist of British bands that are being pushed at the moment. At other times it's generic stuff that is associated with people my age that I avoided even when it came out.


I had assumed that over time these automated pages would adapt to what I'm interested in, but it seems not - some recommendations are based on things I listened to recently, but things I have no interest in don't go away and I can find no way of making them go away, and they take up most of the space. And things I listened to recently are not necessarily the things I want to listen to today.


The other problem with algorithm-based recommendations is that it is a disincentive to listening to things on a whim (similar to YouTube) - if you check out a few seconds of something you hate by mistake there's always the danger it will rewrite your recommendations.


There is search, and I do use that a lot, but the results are very inconsistent. Often it will return results that are similar to what I want, and it can take a while to navigate to what I actually want from there.


Is there something I should be doing to make the apps more useful? For example, is there a way of pinning preferred artists and genres so I have them immediately available? Can I make the mainstream pop stuff go away? On YouTube there is at least the Do Not Recommend This Channel option, which I use a lot, and has largely, blissfully, banished Jordan Peterson from my recommendations.


This is a bit of a moan, but I'm surprised that the app appears to be so unhelpful and that a year on I'm still using hacks to find things I that ought to be a browse or a search away.

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Posted on Dec 26, 2022 4:36 AM

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Dec 26, 2022 4:42 AM in response to Grangousier

Is there something I should be doing to make the apps more useful? For example, is there a way of pinning preferred artists and genres so I have them immediately available? Can I make the mainstream pop stuff go away? On YouTube there is at least the Do Not Recommend This Channel option, which I use a lot, and has largely, blissfully, banished Jordan Peterson from my recommendations.


You can like or dislike any album in browse, that will help to better learn your interests. Hover over the album, tap more (the three dots), and choose your option. The Listen Now section is based on your previous plays and similar songs/artists, and the interests of others who have listened to the particular song/playlist.

Dec 26, 2022 4:59 AM in response to muguy

That doesn't seem to make anything go away, though - sorry, it's Boxing Day and I have a lot of time on my hands - I've been through and marked all the Your Go-To Playlists and various tracks as disliked and they're still there, even though I've restarted Music (which ought to have triggered some kind of refresh). There should be some way to make a lot of these categories go away - for example, Dance Dance Dance, or Must Hear Hip-Hop and R&B. No disrespect to the artists, but they're just clutter to me.

Dec 26, 2022 5:35 AM in response to muguy

Ah, well. Thanks for your response, but that confirms what I thought - in a year of use what's presented to me hasn't really changed at all based on what I actually listen to (some recommendations based on recent listens, many more irrelevant suggestions and the Browse page is a wasteland AFAIC). That level of responsiveness - mark as disliked now and maybe things will change in the future - isn't really helpful, and presupposes I have the time and energy to go through hundreds of entries marking them down. If the response was immediate, I might be tempted to spend a couple of hours batting away the cruft until the suggestions improved (as I've done with YouTube, with moderate success), but without that (and without confidence that anything would change) there's not really the incentive to do anything.


Even then, it would be useful to have some way to tell it that I have no interest in DJ Mixes (for example) other than marking down individual David Guetta or Calvin Harris mixes and hoping it will get the hint.


I assumed I was doing something wrong, but it must be the software. I'm embedded in the Apple ecosystem in most other ways, like the way music I upload is integrated and, as I say, the sound quality is far superior to Spotify and a recommendation in itself. Generated Stations aren't bad, if a little unimaginative. But I don't remember Spotify being so opaque, and I did manage to find all sorts of things on there. Outside of the narrow (but mainstream, and the mainstream is fairly narrow) interests that the app is set up to cater to, I'm surprised it's so hard to browse anything.


Oh, well, this turned into nothing more than a moan after all. I'll see what I can do with what's available. Thanks for the response, though.

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