iBoostup Clean up vs Winzip Clean up

Hi


I just like to know being a long term member with iBoostup 


I downloaded Winzip Clean up free demo and it showed the following concerns


Scan both


iBoostup 1.2GB needs cleaning

Winzip 5.1 needs cleaning


after cleaning using only iBootsup the results showed


iBoost 13.1Mb needs cleaning 

Winzip 4.0GB needs cleaning.


My question is; Is winzip doing a better check on my iMac computer than iBoostup. 


iMac 27″, macOS 10.15

Posted on Dec 28, 2022 4:21 AM

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Posted on Dec 28, 2022 9:44 AM

As has already been mentioned but to Add a few things extra


Additionally, specific to Big Sur macOS 11 and above. The Operating System resides in a Sealed and Read Only Volume that can not be opened by the User.


So in effect, either of the two mentioned Cleaner's will only be able to touch the User Account(s) folders " Home Folder(s)." and nothing more.


Further, the User only has Direct Control over that same " Home Folder (s) "


So, the " Unwanted Files " the user is interested in cleaning out will and do only reside in that very same " Home Folder(s)" .


If Empty Space is the real underlying issue for this computer ➡️


Rebuild the Spotlight index on your Mac


What is “Other” storage on a Mac, and how can I clean it out?


Free up storage space on your Mac


OmniDiskSweeper Safe to use


GrandPerspective 


How to delete Time Machine snapshots on your Mac


See used and available storage space on your Mac


Locate backups of your iPhone, iPad, and iPod touch


Notation - If the user is using a cloning software like Carbon Copy Cloner - suggest tweaking the Safety Net Feature in this software. It may be making additional Snap Shots that are not being Cloned to the Eternal Drive. If this should be the case, these Snap Shot could be using additional space on the drive 


The final word from Apple on Managing the " Other/ System Data “ Category


Other / System Data: Contains files that don’t fall into the categories listed here. This category primarily includes files and data used by the system, such as log files, caches, VM files, and other runtime system resources. Also included are temporary files, fonts, app support files, and plug-ins. You can't manage the contents of this category. The contents are managed by macOS, and the category varies in size depending on the current state of your Mac.


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Dec 28, 2022 9:44 AM in response to 24bit_192khz_Music

As has already been mentioned but to Add a few things extra


Additionally, specific to Big Sur macOS 11 and above. The Operating System resides in a Sealed and Read Only Volume that can not be opened by the User.


So in effect, either of the two mentioned Cleaner's will only be able to touch the User Account(s) folders " Home Folder(s)." and nothing more.


Further, the User only has Direct Control over that same " Home Folder (s) "


So, the " Unwanted Files " the user is interested in cleaning out will and do only reside in that very same " Home Folder(s)" .


If Empty Space is the real underlying issue for this computer ➡️


Rebuild the Spotlight index on your Mac


What is “Other” storage on a Mac, and how can I clean it out?


Free up storage space on your Mac


OmniDiskSweeper Safe to use


GrandPerspective 


How to delete Time Machine snapshots on your Mac


See used and available storage space on your Mac


Locate backups of your iPhone, iPad, and iPod touch


Notation - If the user is using a cloning software like Carbon Copy Cloner - suggest tweaking the Safety Net Feature in this software. It may be making additional Snap Shots that are not being Cloned to the Eternal Drive. If this should be the case, these Snap Shot could be using additional space on the drive 


The final word from Apple on Managing the " Other/ System Data “ Category


Other / System Data: Contains files that don’t fall into the categories listed here. This category primarily includes files and data used by the system, such as log files, caches, VM files, and other runtime system resources. Also included are temporary files, fonts, app support files, and plug-ins. You can't manage the contents of this category. The contents are managed by macOS, and the category varies in size depending on the current state of your Mac.


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Dec 28, 2022 10:59 AM in response to 24bit_192khz_Music

First, there is no reason to ever install or run any 3rd party "cleaning", "optimizing", "speed-up", anti-virus, VPN or security apps on your Mac.  This documents describe what you need to know and do in order to protect your Mac: Effective defenses against malware and other threats - Apple Community and Recognize and avoid phishing messages, phony support calls, and other scams - Apple Support.  


There are no known viruses, i.e. self propagating, for Macs.  There are, however, adware and malware which require the user to install although unwittingly most of the time thru sneaky links, etc.   


Anti Virus developers try to group all types as viruses into their ad campaigns of fear.  They do a poor job of the detecting and isolating the adware and malware.  Since there are no viruses these apps use up a lot of system resources searching for what is non-existent and adversely affect system and app performance.


There is one app, Malwarebytes, which was developed by a long time contributor to these forums and a highly respected member of the computer security community, that is designed solely to seek out adware and known malware and remove it.  The free version is more than adequate for most users.  


An occasional boot into Safe Mode according to How to use safe mode on your Mac and frequent reboots during the week are all you need to do to clear out temporary system and application cache and swap files. The Safe Mode boot does more.


Note:  if you have a wireless keyboard with rechargeable batteries connect it with its charging cable before booting into Safe Mode.  This makes it act as a wired keyboard as will assure a successful boot into Safe Mode.


I wholeheartedly agree with dialabrain on getting rid of those two apps.


Dec 28, 2022 8:02 AM in response to 24bit_192khz_Music

To repeat the above - all cleaning or optimizing apps should never touch a Mac. The System folder itself is locked down. No one other than Apple can alter its contents. The Mac does not have arcane hidden areas where third party apps stuff all kinds of cruft, such as the all-time-champion of obscurity - the Windows registry.


I used to use WinZip many years ago in Windows. When MS included their own zipping option with the OS, I stopped using WinZip. It was pointless to continue its use when the OS handled that chore itself.


It's the same with the Mac. For most users, WinZip serves no purpose. macOS can both extract and create zip files on its own. If you routinely password protect your zip files, you can do that on the Mac using Terminal. But that of course is a clumsy method for those not comfortable with the command line. WinZip would make that step much easier. But that is its one and only advantage for the zip format.


And as Yer_Man noted, just the fact that Corel owns it should be at least a bit of cause for concern. I wish I could find it again, but at one time, I ran across a list of software Corel purchased, did a few changes to the code on, sold it for much less than the original vendor to make a quick buck, then discontinued it within two years. And it wasn't just a few. I still use Toast Titanium and I have to wonder how long that will last under Corel's umbrella.

Dec 28, 2022 4:53 AM in response to 24bit_192khz_Music

Any Third Party Applications that will interfere with the normal operation of the OS,  is an invitation for disaster and comprising the Operating System


Certain Applications maybe available on the Apple Apps Store - this only means the Developer is prepared to pay Apple a portion on each sale. What the Application may do to the computer is up to the User to check this out before purchase


Any of the below should be removed as per Developers Instructions


Below is a partial list but might as well include the two Applications mentioned in above posting


This will include CleanMyMac


MacKeeper


PowerMyMac 


Dr Cleaner Pro Plus


https://discussions.apple.com/search?q=iBoostup+Clean


https://discussions.apple.com/search?q=Winzip%20Clean%20up&page=1&content=filterDiscussions


Read some of the posting and arrive at your own conclusions.



Dec 28, 2022 7:30 AM in response to 24bit_192khz_Music

24bit_192khz_Music wrote:

iBoostup was recommended here on this site, many years ago by someone who worked for Apple.

That is absolutely not true. No Apple employee would ever post and recommend iBoostup.


More typical are posts like this:

iBoostUp is absolute junk that should never, ever be installed on your computer.


I do see a few posts where people post links to the iboostup website like this: https://www.iboostup.com/app/com.yshur.appys


But what does iBoostup say about this app?

AppYS (com.yshur.appys) is a Mac OS X software application that has been discovered and submitted by users of iBoostUp.

The latest version that our iBoostUp users have reported seeing on their systems is AppYS 2. The most popular version of this application used by our users is version 1099. AppYS requires macOS 10.5 or later.


AppYS is malware. I think maybe BoostUp should mention that instead of suggesting it is some kind of legitimate app.

Dec 28, 2022 9:19 AM in response to 24bit_192khz_Music

If there is something you or I do not like that does not mean it's junk.

especial Winzip, words typed do not make it junk.


I neither like nor dislike Winzip.


I am aware this site will be more Apple-focused.


No really? Given that it's owned and operated by Apple, what a surprise!


Advising Winzip is junk based on the fact you do not like it is poor advice.


As I said, I neither like nor dislike Winzip. The app you refer to is junk because it belongs to a category of apps that is junk. That's why. I suggest that my first post on the topic is very good advice:


Never install any app that claims to "tune up", "speed up" or "clean up" your Mac. These apps exist for one reason: to separate the unwary and inexperienced user from their hard-earned money. At best they do very little, at worst, they can damage your OS installation and cause far more problems than they "solve".


You would do well to respond to the points made, not the ones you wish were made.

Dec 28, 2022 5:19 AM in response to 24bit_192khz_Music

24bit_192khz_Music wrote:

Apple is forcing us (customers) to only use their recommendations apps. and to pay for each and every app. at a cost!

FWIW, Apple doesn't force anyone to use "recommended apps". The only two apps Apple charges for are Final Cut Pro & Logic Pro.

I just like my Imac to run smoothly and remove unwanted files.

My Macs have managed to run smoothly for 30+ years without any cleaning apps and you certainly don't need an app to remove an "unwanted file".

Dec 28, 2022 4:45 AM in response to dialabrain

Thank you for the reply


I would not want anyone to use a cleaning app if they honestly believe it will do more harm than good to the computer. My question is; both the apps are well-known brands and if you are already using WinZip, then you are already using their software? May I ask you why you do not use any well-known cleaning app tools?



I would like to know from anyone who does use a cleaning app, what are they thoughts too.


Dec 28, 2022 5:04 AM in response to Owl-53

Thank you for the reply.


I am sure that most people are aware of any 1/3 party application may/can cause problems, and that is well-known knowledge. However. Apple is forcing us (customers) to only use their recommendations apps. and to pay for each and every app. at a cost! We already pay for word, pdf, iTunes, apple Tv disney+ e.c.t. and much more. Who has a bottomless amount of money to spend?


I just like my Imac to run smoothly and remove unwanted files.


Warm Regards

Dec 28, 2022 5:49 AM in response to dialabrain

Hi dialabrian.


Winzip is worldwide used (Ref. to ZIP file) as you and I already know. It is one of the most used software and has proven over time to be trusted. I am sure most people would agree.


iBoostup was recommended here on this site, many years ago by someone who worked for Apple. I read the post and since then i have been using it for many years with no issues.


Warm Regards.



Dec 28, 2022 6:56 AM in response to 24bit_192khz_Music

The user gets what they Paid for which is zero aside for the issues the application cause to the Operating System.


The Links should have provided enough evidence.


Plus, the on-hands experience from at least 3 different Contributors to challenge the notion that either of the two Applications will actually do something good to this machine


This is the user Choice at this time, what actions are needs to keep the Computer in Good Working order


The suggestions have been put forth on a volunteer basis, in good faith and in the best interests of the computer.



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