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Sluggish iMac Performance

Late 2015 21.5" iMac, running sluggish and beach balling for quite some time. Decided to remove ClamX since there seems to be some discussion on it's benefit vs performance hit. Improvement was marginal. Also ran Black Magic disk test along with EtreCheck. EtreCheck was reporting major issues but then disappeared after I removed ClamX, but still had minor issues (which I don't profess to understand). Disk Speed test didn't change much (~40/50 Mbs r/w). By comparison, I have an older late 2013 iMac totally loaded with programs & ClamX that runs 110/140 Mbs, and a 2016 MBPro @ 1500/2400 Mbs (albeit SSD). I totally wiped the 2015 iMac and reloaded Montery. Only extra app added was Black Magic and EtreCheck...nothing else, no file migration or Time Machine recovery. Still seems pretty sluggish launching stock apps with the odd beachball. Attaching latest EtreCheck...no idea what to do next. Thanks.


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Posted on Jan 5, 2023 6:05 AM

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Posted on Jan 5, 2023 8:28 AM

1) The speed different that you are seeing, is do to the type of internal drive.

The 2013 iMac has a 3.5" 7200rpm HDD

The 2015 iMac has a 2.5" 5400rpm HDD


2) The EtreCheck Pro report, actually shows the drive speed Write 80 MB/s Read 81 MB/s.

Performance:

System Load: 2.28 (1 min ago) 2.35 (5 min ago) 2.69 (15 min ago)

Nominal I/O usage: 2.38 MB/s

File system: 26.45 seconds

Write speed: 80 MB/s

Read speed: 81 MB/s


3) If you want the 2013 or 2015 iMac's to go faster? Consider running from an external ssd.

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Jan 5, 2023 8:28 AM in response to nothandyrandy

1) The speed different that you are seeing, is do to the type of internal drive.

The 2013 iMac has a 3.5" 7200rpm HDD

The 2015 iMac has a 2.5" 5400rpm HDD


2) The EtreCheck Pro report, actually shows the drive speed Write 80 MB/s Read 81 MB/s.

Performance:

System Load: 2.28 (1 min ago) 2.35 (5 min ago) 2.69 (15 min ago)

Nominal I/O usage: 2.38 MB/s

File system: 26.45 seconds

Write speed: 80 MB/s

Read speed: 81 MB/s


3) If you want the 2013 or 2015 iMac's to go faster? Consider running from an external ssd.

Use an external SSD as your startup disk … - Apple Community

Jan 5, 2023 9:58 AM in response to nothandyrandy

I also agree with den.thed's assessment. You wrote:


By comparison, I have an older late 2013 iMac.... that runs 110/140 Mbs,


Those speeds are totally consistent with a 3.5-inch 7200rpm, SATA 6GB mech drive as used in higher-end 27-inch iMacs of the time. The "thin-case" redesign of the 2012 and later 21.5-inch models did not leave room for a proper 3.5-inch desktop drive, so the designers used slower 2.5-inch laptop drives instead. Form beat out function, unfortunately.


The ~80MB/sec speeds are as good as it gets for your 2015 model without the external USB3 SSD option. That option should give you ~400MB/sec minimum.

Jan 5, 2023 1:15 PM in response to nothandyrandy

Thanks all for the input...appreciated. I honestly thought this machine performed much better when first purchased, albeit anecdotally. I hadn't considered using an external drive as a boot disk since BlackMagic is telling me my r/w to my 1TB SanDisk SSD is in the area of ~35/40Mbs.


Is the external SSD to be used as a boot disk only, or is the internal drive abandoned altogether. I only ask because I'm wondering why a 1-4TB SSD is recommended per link provided.


Anything to help reduce waiting for apps to launch, and photography editing apps to run better...I'm in!


Thanks again.


RH

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