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Replace Airport Extreme

I asked a similar question about replacing my 6th generation AE back in December 2022 with several helpful replies from Tesserax. Still looking for the "perfect" router and think I've narrowed it down to the Amplify Alien now sold at apple.com or Synology WRX560.


Ideally I would like one router instead of mesh if possible because my Airport Extreme does an excellent job of covering my whole house and workshop next door without any extenders. House is approximately 1250 sq. ft x3 1st, 2nd floor and basement. Don't care that much about basement so 2500 sq ft. +.


Does anyone know if the Amplify Alien or Synology WRX560, as single units, would equal the coverage as the AE. The Alien specs say a single unit covers 3000 sq ft, but not sure how accurate that is.


Any input appreciated.

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Posted on Jan 30, 2023 2:15 PM

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Posted on Jan 31, 2023 8:35 AM

As you can imagine everyone's networking environment is different. It would be impossible to assure you which of these two products would perform, as well or better than signal propagation-wise, compared to your existing AirPort Extreme base station. However, both are excellent, feature-wise, compared to your Extreme.


What I suggest is that you carefully review the return policies of the vendors that you plan on acquiring these routers from, should either or both not meet your expectations, they can be returned without any issues. If, after reviewing their policies, you find them satisfactory, go ahead and make your purchase and try them out. Let us know what you decide and your results.

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Jan 31, 2023 8:35 AM in response to Joe Gramm

As you can imagine everyone's networking environment is different. It would be impossible to assure you which of these two products would perform, as well or better than signal propagation-wise, compared to your existing AirPort Extreme base station. However, both are excellent, feature-wise, compared to your Extreme.


What I suggest is that you carefully review the return policies of the vendors that you plan on acquiring these routers from, should either or both not meet your expectations, they can be returned without any issues. If, after reviewing their policies, you find them satisfactory, go ahead and make your purchase and try them out. Let us know what you decide and your results.

Feb 1, 2023 3:21 PM in response to Joe Gramm

Again, you can't go wrong with either, but actual experience will be the only way to tell which will work better at your home.


FWIW. I completely replaced my Apple networking ecosystem with Ubiquiti UniFi gear when Apple decided to exit the networking hardware market. I have yet to regret my decision doing so. To note, both the Amplify HD & Alien line are also part of the Ubiquiti family.


My decision to go with the UniFi line is that I prefer a network that fundamentally relies on an Ethernet backbone ... although mesh networking is also supported.


No problem coming here and asking questions. I'm sure someone with experience with any of the brands you are looking at will chime in with their results.

Jan 31, 2023 10:01 AM in response to Joe Gramm

Caveat: I have no experience with either product but they both of them seem to be worthy of consideration. A dedicated iOS setup app would be a prerequisite for me and I believe both of them have one. So does the Linksys Velop AX4200 WiFi 6 Mesh System Apple sells.


Bob Timmons wrote:

In other words, there would really be no real advantage to purchasing the product through Apple, unless you simply want to buy from Apple.


14 day no questions asked return policy, should that make a difference. Of course any reputable dealer will have a similar or better policy.


I do not know the reason Apple does not sell the Synology WRX560 but I wouldn't read too much into that.


The Synology routers all support Time Machine backups to a hard drive connected to the USB port on the router if that capability is important to you.


If it did not have a USB port that would be a deal-breaker as far as I'm concerned.


Edit to add: I don't know if the Linksys's USB port can be used for that purpose. It only indicates it's for printing, and if that's true it's also a deal-breaker.

Jan 31, 2023 9:06 AM in response to Joe Gramm

Not sure if you are interested in performing Time Machine backups to a USB hard drive that is connected to the router, which is an option that the AirPort Extreme provides.


The Synology routers all support Time Machine backups to a hard drive connected to the USB port on the router if that capability is important to you.


From what I can tell after taking a brief look, the Amplify router does not have a USB port.


While Apple does offer the Amplify router in their stores and online, they do not provide technical support for the product, so users will be working directly with Amplify on any issues or questions. In other words, there would really be no real advantage to purchasing the product through Apple, unless you simply want to buy from Apple.



Jan 31, 2023 10:01 AM in response to Tesserax

This morning I ended up ordering the Synology WRX560 from Amazon. As you pointed out about possible returns, Amazon offers the best return policy with Prime.


The WRX560 seems to get excellent reviews all around for performance, specifications, coverage and Synology Router Manager(SRM). I like the idea of the WRX560 having dedicated wireless backhaul incase I end up needing another WRX560 unit. This I believe because of the 5.9 GHz band. No way I can run an ethernet cable.


As to the specs, there will always be complaints. In this case mostly due to only one 2.5Gb Lan/Wan port and the USB(3.2) port being on the side of the unit. All I can live with.


Will report back, especially on the coverage of a single unit, once I get it set up this weekend.

Jan 31, 2023 10:15 AM in response to Bob Timmons

No USB port is one reason I decided against the Amplify Alien. Other reasons were no WPA3 support, no dedicated WiFi backhaul. The Alien came out 2 years ago or more, the WRX560 basically January 2023.


I really wanted to like the Amplify Alien because most reviews said it never looses a connection and never needs to be reset. That's the description of how my Airport Extreme works. For coverage and reliability, in my case, I've found the AE to be near flawless since the day I set it up.

Jan 31, 2023 10:34 AM in response to Joe Gramm

Good luck! Will be interested in your feedback.


As far as returns, I normally buy Apple accessories from Amazon when available, because I can return the product for up to 30 days while Apple limits things to 14 days.


Come to think of it, I don't think I've ever returned an Apple accessory to Amazon......maybe when I ordered the wrong USB to Ethernet adapter.......can't remember the details.



Jan 31, 2023 10:29 AM in response to John Galt

Supposedly for the average user, which is probably me, the Synology IOS setup app is just a few clicks and the router is up and running. For more advance settings like parental controls, guest network, etc, this is where the Linux based SRM via a browser supposedly shines.


One thing I'm wondering because I have not set up a new router since my AE. I have roof top solar panels with a somewhat finicky reporting system that is connected via WiFi. To keep it happy, can I simply name the new router the same as is now and keep the same password. I currently have a 16 character password. Would that be okay to do or is that a no no for security purposes.


Feb 1, 2023 8:57 AM in response to Joe Gramm

Joe Gramm wrote:

Supposedly for the average user, which is probably me, the Synology IOS setup app is just a few clicks and the router is up and running. For more advance settings like parental controls, guest network, etc, this is where the Linux based SRM via a browser supposedly shines.

Indeed it does. Once you get familiarized with the basics, you'll quickly find that you will be exploring all of its additional features ... like the media server. What? A media server on a router ... yep! (Hint: Check out section 13.5 in your new router's User Guide.)


One thing I'm wondering because I have not set up a new router since my AE. I have roof top solar panels with a somewhat finicky reporting system that is connected via WiFi. To keep it happy, can I simply name the new router the same as is now and keep the same password. I currently have a 16 character password. Would that be okay to do or is that a no no for security purposes.

Here is where you will find out an example of how this router (or others like it) really shines. You can create a local network dedicated to your solar panels. That network can then have whatever characteristics those panels require for optimum connectivity. Then, your "main" network, that you will connect the rest of your devices to, can be configured to meet your networking goals ... including increasing the amount of security.

Feb 1, 2023 2:46 PM in response to Tesserax

Great idea about the solar panels. I'll start looking into the solar panel WiFi requirements.


I did make a change. I had a tech support email going with the Synology product manager, mostly about what I could expect for coverage. His recommendation was to get the RT6600ax instead. He said the RT6600ax was meant to be the base in the setup because it's faster, more powerful and has better coverage vs the WRX560. Originally, when looking at the Synology routers, the RT6600ax was my first choice, but I was having a hard time getting past the design with the six exposed antenna, and it's quite large.


So I ordered the RT6600ax. Unfortunately, it's on backorder everywhere it's sold. So the routers now coming from Amazon Feb 12th-14th. I won't be setting it up this weekend.


Since the router won't ship for 2 weeks, I'm now wondering if the Amplify Alien is still an option. The Alien specifications appear to be not as good as the Synology RT6600ax, but they are still pretty good. It only has 1 Gbps Lan & Wan ports, but I won't be getting a Gb internet plan any time soon. Time Machine is on a USB Novus Oyen HD, connected to my iMac, so maybe I don't need the USB port. My printer is on WiFi.


My apologies for being all over the place with this..


The Amplify Alien is 3 years old at this point, but people who own it seem to love it. The Alien is actually more expensive than the Synology RT6600ax.


I know no one here can say which is the best router for me, but any opinions as to whether the Amplify Alien is still a good router in 2023.




Feb 9, 2023 2:50 PM in response to Tesserax

Thought I'd give an update. While waiting for the Synology RT6600ax I ordered the Amplify Alien. I like the Alien so much, I cancelled the Synology. I know in terms of specifications, the Synology router runs circles around the Alien, but my network needs are pretty simple.


I have one router(not mesh) and this is what I like:

Design, build quality, display resolution all excellent.


Incredible coverage considering it's not mesh. I get full WiFi bars in every corner of the house. Three floors 1250 sq ft each. I can play Youtube video outside anywhere in the yard and even across the street with WiFi 5 devices.


I have a Comcast 400 Mbps plan. From my Arris SB8200 cable modem via ethernet to the Alien, the Amplify Alien display/Speed Test shows 480 Mbps down and only 14 Mbps up. Using the Amplify App from my iPhone SE (1st Gen WiFi 5) I get 200-230 Mbps anywhere in the house, and surprisingly, the Amplify App says 51 up. My wife's iPhone 12 Mini gets up to about 340Mbps download speeds. Ten connected devices on the network, all working great. Not bad for a 400 Mbps cable plan.


Good Parental Controls, albeit simple.


What could be improved:

No WPA3 (Synology RT6600ax yes)


It's Tri-Band WiFi 6, but one of the 5Ghz channels is WiFi 5. (Synology RT6600ax all WiFi 6)


No USB. Sort of okay, but not really. (Synology RT6600ax yes)


Sad to see the Airport Extreme go, but the Amplify Alien is fun to look at and a substantial upgrade.


Thank you Tesserax for guiding me to Ubiquiti.



Feb 19, 2023 10:10 AM in response to Tesserax

Hi Tesserax, Wondering if you are familiar with how the Amplify Teleport App works..


I have the Amplify App installed and have Remote Access Enabled. Also have Amplify Teleport App and VPN set up on my device.


My daughter left for a school trip to Europe today. Before she left installed Teleport on her phone and Teleport seemed to work.


But what I don't understand about Teleport is it suppose to create a personal WiFi network where there is no WiFi. So another words, when you are not on a local network, are you suppose to be always connected to the router..


Hope that makes sense.

Feb 19, 2023 10:39 AM in response to Joe Gramm

Hi Joe,


I am somewhat familiar, but since I don't have Amplify devices, I have no way to verify using Teleport with them.


What I do know, is that Ubiquiti provides three basic modes of Teleport, and I'm assuming that you are referring to the Remote Access mode, where you can use the Teleport app on an iPhone to VPN into your home's Amplify network.


Not sure about the personal Wi-Fi network though, and I will have to research that for you. As far as I know, Teleport only provides a VPN access, not a HotSpot nor Internet access.

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