OS 7 for PowerPC Performa 6320CD - best option to proceed with restoration of old Mac to working order?

I picked up an old PowerPC Performa 6320CD that I'm trying to restore to working order. The system is apparently on a connected external DVD. It seems to start and spin but it does not boot. The floppy they supplied with it won't start or install the system. The drive spits them back out saying they are too old for the computer and that it needs 7.5. I'm trying to find a way do download a feely available image for those floppies for now without getting into much expense to buy it on eBay. I found the image and downloaded it on to a MacBookPro12.1 that has a USB 3.0 port. I don't have a Mac floppy drive, only the one that is on the non-working Performa. How can I convert the downloaded image to floppies format? First, am I going to have to buy a floppy drive? As I mentioned, the external HD is not booting. I'm not sure what exact type of disk it is, but is it possible to create a bootable image of the 7.5 OS on a HD (maybe that same one if I can get it to connect to my MacBookPro12. So far I don't see how to do that. The connection to the Performa from that drive is a massive DB25 to C36 looking cable. Can anyone think up viable options to for the time being stay away from an expensive rabbit hole. I understand those were not very good models of the old Macs. This is mostly for my own history collection of Macs.


On the following options, none was available for the old Performa PowerPCs, so I chose the device to which I downloaded the OS 7.5 system 7z image on a flash drive connected to the USB 3.0 port.

MacBook Pro, OS X 10.11

Posted on Feb 2, 2023 7:06 AM

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Posted on Feb 4, 2023 9:51 PM

Does the internal CD-ROM drive's tray open and did you try the system disk in it? I'm wondering why an external optical drive has been connected to the computer, unless the internal drive stopped reading disks. Pre-OS 8.1 Macs require that any burned data CDs be formatted as HFS (not HFS+) volumes (explained below), so that could be the problem with the installer disk that only spins and isn't readable. If it's a burned disk, it must be on older/slower speed CD-ROM media, been burned at a slow speed, been formatted as HFS, and been created to be bootable. Old versions of Toast provided these options. I suspect that more recent versions have dropped the HFS formatting option. In my experience, those older 4x SCSI CD-ROM drives often had problems reading burned media, even the latter 8x and 12x SCSI drives. I also found that CD media with an aqua or turquoise surface color were more likely to be readable than CDs with a mirror-like appearance.


OS 7.6 was Apple's last operating software made available on a floppy disk set. By the time OS 8 was released, the number of floppy disks needed for the installation was increasing and the number of users installing from floppy disks was decreasing. The external optical drive is (as Jan stated) a SCSI CD-ROM drive. Apple's first DVD-ROM drives were ATAPI devices. Above or below the Centronics-50 cable that's plugged into the back of the SCSI drive, you should also find a (preferably "active") terminator plugged into the other Centronics-50 port. If there's nothing plugged into the 2nd port, is there a slide-switch on the back to enable termination? If the end of the SCSI chain isn't properly terminated, the computer will have startup problems. Also, the DB-25 SCSI port on the back of the 6320 is connected internally to the same SCSI bus as the internal CD-ROM drive is connected. This means that the external drive can't have the same SCSI address as the internal CD-ROM drive uses: Address 3. There should be a button on the back of the external drive to change the SCSI address. The 6320's internal 1.2 GB hard drive is connected to a dedicated IDE bus.


Prior to OS 8.1, hard drives were restricted to being formatted as HFS volumes (Mac OS Standard). As hard drive capacities kept increasing, the minimum allocation block size kept increasing and created wasted space, wherein small files were swimming around in oversized allocation blocks. The Mac OS 8.1 Update introduced the HFS+ format (Mac OS Extended), which addressed this issue, the same way that FAT-32 did for PCs. While a Performa 6320 can run a more modern OS than 7.5.1 or 7.5.3, the hardware is taxed when trying to run OS 9.x. OS 8 or 8.1 would be the best compromise for the feel of a modern OS, and with a 1.2 GB internal hard drive, the issue of HFS versus HFS+ isn't a big deal. The 6320 originally shipped with 16 MBs of memory, probably a pair of 8 MB SIMMs. If your 6320 hasn't had memory upgrades and you wanted to run OS 8 or 8.1, I'd remove one of the 8 MB SIMMs and replace it with a 32 MB, for a total of 40 MBs. If you stick with OS 7.5.x or 7.6/7.6.1, 16 MBs will be adequate.


If the motherboard's original 4.5-volt alkaline battery is dead and has leaked solution on the motherboard, corrosion could be an additional cause of problems, so removing the motherboard for a visual inspection would be first on my checklist to troubleshoot. Loss of the stored PRAM settings from a dead battery is often a source of startup issues. Be sure to discharge any static charge that you may have acquired, before getting your hands near the components on the board. The Performa 6320 has a slide-in motherboard that's removed from the rear. If this computer has been in storage for a while, you should examine the upper and lower surfaces of the gold-plated pins along the edge of the motherboard. Discoloration or oxidation can compromise any one of a number of functions, because that edge connector engages a wide slot that connects the motherboard to the floppy, optical, and hard drives, video port, as well as to the power supply. If discolored, I gently scrub the pins with a soft, white eraser to restore a shine. Following that, any rubber shavings must be completely blown off before installing the board.

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Feb 4, 2023 9:51 PM in response to silvanet

Does the internal CD-ROM drive's tray open and did you try the system disk in it? I'm wondering why an external optical drive has been connected to the computer, unless the internal drive stopped reading disks. Pre-OS 8.1 Macs require that any burned data CDs be formatted as HFS (not HFS+) volumes (explained below), so that could be the problem with the installer disk that only spins and isn't readable. If it's a burned disk, it must be on older/slower speed CD-ROM media, been burned at a slow speed, been formatted as HFS, and been created to be bootable. Old versions of Toast provided these options. I suspect that more recent versions have dropped the HFS formatting option. In my experience, those older 4x SCSI CD-ROM drives often had problems reading burned media, even the latter 8x and 12x SCSI drives. I also found that CD media with an aqua or turquoise surface color were more likely to be readable than CDs with a mirror-like appearance.


OS 7.6 was Apple's last operating software made available on a floppy disk set. By the time OS 8 was released, the number of floppy disks needed for the installation was increasing and the number of users installing from floppy disks was decreasing. The external optical drive is (as Jan stated) a SCSI CD-ROM drive. Apple's first DVD-ROM drives were ATAPI devices. Above or below the Centronics-50 cable that's plugged into the back of the SCSI drive, you should also find a (preferably "active") terminator plugged into the other Centronics-50 port. If there's nothing plugged into the 2nd port, is there a slide-switch on the back to enable termination? If the end of the SCSI chain isn't properly terminated, the computer will have startup problems. Also, the DB-25 SCSI port on the back of the 6320 is connected internally to the same SCSI bus as the internal CD-ROM drive is connected. This means that the external drive can't have the same SCSI address as the internal CD-ROM drive uses: Address 3. There should be a button on the back of the external drive to change the SCSI address. The 6320's internal 1.2 GB hard drive is connected to a dedicated IDE bus.


Prior to OS 8.1, hard drives were restricted to being formatted as HFS volumes (Mac OS Standard). As hard drive capacities kept increasing, the minimum allocation block size kept increasing and created wasted space, wherein small files were swimming around in oversized allocation blocks. The Mac OS 8.1 Update introduced the HFS+ format (Mac OS Extended), which addressed this issue, the same way that FAT-32 did for PCs. While a Performa 6320 can run a more modern OS than 7.5.1 or 7.5.3, the hardware is taxed when trying to run OS 9.x. OS 8 or 8.1 would be the best compromise for the feel of a modern OS, and with a 1.2 GB internal hard drive, the issue of HFS versus HFS+ isn't a big deal. The 6320 originally shipped with 16 MBs of memory, probably a pair of 8 MB SIMMs. If your 6320 hasn't had memory upgrades and you wanted to run OS 8 or 8.1, I'd remove one of the 8 MB SIMMs and replace it with a 32 MB, for a total of 40 MBs. If you stick with OS 7.5.x or 7.6/7.6.1, 16 MBs will be adequate.


If the motherboard's original 4.5-volt alkaline battery is dead and has leaked solution on the motherboard, corrosion could be an additional cause of problems, so removing the motherboard for a visual inspection would be first on my checklist to troubleshoot. Loss of the stored PRAM settings from a dead battery is often a source of startup issues. Be sure to discharge any static charge that you may have acquired, before getting your hands near the components on the board. The Performa 6320 has a slide-in motherboard that's removed from the rear. If this computer has been in storage for a while, you should examine the upper and lower surfaces of the gold-plated pins along the edge of the motherboard. Discoloration or oxidation can compromise any one of a number of functions, because that edge connector engages a wide slot that connects the motherboard to the floppy, optical, and hard drives, video port, as well as to the power supply. If discolored, I gently scrub the pins with a soft, white eraser to restore a shine. Following that, any rubber shavings must be completely blown off before installing the board.

Feb 2, 2023 3:33 PM in response to silvanet

Hi,


First of all, have a look at the specifications for the Macintosh Performa 6320CD:

Macintosh Performa 6320CD:Technical Specifications


You will notice that the minimum operating system version is 7.5.1 plus a System Enabler 406. Anything before that (such as a Network Access Disk 7.5 floppy) will not boot the computer in question. A Mac OS 8.1 Disk Tools PPC floppy should, though. However, do not expect it to be possible to create a bootable floppy for the Performa 6320CD on a modern Mac. You would need another (working) pre-1998 Macintosh computer for this.

Feb 3, 2023 10:18 AM in response to silvanet

This Performa has an internal flopppy drive (for 800K and 1.44 MB) and an internal CD-ROM drive. The CD-ROM drive can read CDs (but not DVDs).


In order to create a Disk Tools PPC floppy from an image (http://download.info.apple.com/Apple_Support_Area/Apple_Software_Updates/English-North_American/Macintosh/System/Mac_OS_8.1_Update/Disk_Tools_PPC.img.bin), one would need Disk Copy 6.3.3 on a working pre-1998 Macintosh computer with a built-in floppy drive. In order to decode any MacBinary (.bin) or BinHex (.hqx) downloads, that machine must have an appropriate version of StuffIt Expander (for example, 5.5) to begin with.


Remember, a disk tools floppy is only used in an attempt to boot the Performa. If the internal hard disk does not contain an operating system, you would have to buy a system CD. It may be difficult to locate the original system CD for the exact 6320 model. A system disc for another model variant may not work at all. It may be better to buy a later retail system CD (such as Mac OS 7.6).


Once the Performa 6320 is working, you could try to transfer old Mac application files from a modern computer (Mac or PC) on CD-R (not CD-RW) discs burned at a low speed in an ISO 9660 format. Keep the files encoded (MacBinary or BinHex) until on the old Mac. Use StuffIt Expander for the decoding.

Feb 2, 2023 4:36 PM in response to silvanet

Also, the external unit would be a SCSI device. Any label/text indicating what this is? Could be a hard drive or a CD-ROM drive (not DVD). Please note that SCSI devices must be connected in a special way.


A bad internal battery (4.5 V) can sometimes cause startup difficulties.


http://manuals.info.apple.com/Apple_Support_Area/Manuals/desktops/0308236APRF626300CDUG.PDF

Feb 3, 2023 6:02 AM in response to Jan Hedlund

Thanks, I did that. I can see that my Performa has a floppy drive and a DVD drive. So, are you suggesting that I could boot from a OS 8.1 floppy (specifically the Disk Tools floppy from that version)? Do I then need to purchase the 8.1 floppy system disks? I'm trying to figure out if I can get the image instead (maybe for the DVD). I would have to format the DVD as a Mac one. Could I do that from one of my newer Macs that has a DVD drive? Or should I shuck the attempt and seek a working pre-1998 Performa. Should I look to buy the DVDs for the original PowerPC 6320? Thanks for your help.

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