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Severe Eye Strain due to OLED PWM Dimming

Hello , i have been using iphone for 10 years or so and with changes after iphone X which uses OLED , i am really unable to use my iphone due to PWM dimming which causes severe migraine and dizziness for me in 5mins. I have been stuck on iphone 11 due to LCD panels but i am worried whats going to happen in future since LCD is gone now. Can Apple implement DC dimming via software Update? i have tried 14 pro and it had same problems even though flicker has been reduced but doesnt help. I tried every accessibility option like reduce white point , keeping 100% brightness.

Posted on Mar 29, 2023 1:26 PM

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Posted on Apr 14, 2023 10:43 AM

  1. I don't believe we're going to get DC dimming for OLED screens as updates.
  2. For those who don't understand what PWM is and how it affects a small groups of people, before asking them to go see an eye doctor, at least read a few articles about how PWM affects their eyes, and in some cases, dizziness and vertigo. Here is a start: https://www.notebookcheck.net/Why-Pulse-Width-Modulation-PWM-is-such-a-headache.270240.0.html
  3. Currently only iPhone SE 3 have LCD screens. The plain iPhone 11 is the last big display iPhone that have LCD and users who are affect by pwm can only use these 2 phones (that is if they can buy an iPhone 11 model). Note that iPhone 11 Pro & Pro Max uses OLED. And any thing from 12 onwards uses OLED.
  4. I am in the same boat as you because I am also affected by the pwm. If apple changes everything to OLED then I just have to say goodbye to iPhone. We are such a small group and I don't think they really care.

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Jan 30, 2024 9:49 AM in response to Cubbieblue

Thanks, yes it’s odd. Hopefully Apple will address the issue so we can all enjoy new iPhones again.


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Oct 10, 2023 4:14 AM in response to GmXplode

Also I noticed if you use another phone camera and hold it to an OLED screen phone with a white screen you can see the lines scrolling down on OLED phone! I noticed the lines kinda disappear when brightness is lowered to about 50%. But everyone else says keep brightness at 100% the use white point. Really didn’t do much for me. I’m willing to try and buy another 15 and try something else if anyone has any ideas, even though if it doesn’t work I have to pay a $50 restocking fee!

any suggestions?!?!

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Oct 14, 2023 9:39 AM in response to GmXplode

I am switching from an OLED phone to an LCD phone. The iPhone SE 3rd Generation released in 2022 has an LCD screen. This iPhone SE 3 phone is in the same group display at the Apple Store with the iPhone 15’s and iPhone 14’s.

I converted the data yesterday, I am pleased with the picture quality. The phone is small but has good clarity. It has rounded edges which remind me of the Galaxy phone I liked that I was converting from back to an iPhone.

Note worthy, I saw several posts where people said they were going back to their iPhone 11 because of getting headaches/migraines with the iPhone 14. Turns out the iPhone 11 is also an LCD phone.

Apple and Verizon have been very helpful while I was sorting this out.

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Jan 17, 2024 7:56 PM in response to GmXplode

For me the 15 PM has been the most tolerable of the OLED displays. Unfortunately it is not perfect. There are times where I feel discomfort in the back of my neck at the base of the head, eyes get slightly strained with prolonged use, a little eye fatigue. But it isn't like other OLED displays where it was pure suffering. I have several more days before my return window is up and I don't know what I will do. This is the first time that I feel the age of my 11. I love the cameras, speakers, brightness, battery, and higher storage capacity. Decisions.

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Jan 17, 2024 8:33 PM in response to inegrin

I have left feedback so many times I lost count. I've been active in a long-going thread about this issue in MacRumors. That single thread is 404 pages, has 10k+ replies, and over 1 million views should you ever care to check it out. I've been using the 15 PM since Dec 7th and I can say the symptoms haven't become any worse. Intermittent is how I would describe it.

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Jan 30, 2024 9:35 AM in response to inegrin

No me neither, I certainly was not ranting. Clearly the other user feels I was. And I can only apologise to him, if he feels that way. I don’t want to divert from the topic.


I need to be careful now as I’ve had a ban warning so won’t be replying again. I’m just gutted I had to return my lovely new handset. Also pretty worried I may never be able to own a new iphone ( 1st world problems )..


I’m gonna probably try the 15 standard edition. Hopefully I’ll be ok on that one.


cheers

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Jan 30, 2024 9:46 AM in response to Community User

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No me neither, I certainly was not ranting. Clearly the other user feels I was. And I can only apologise to him, if he feels that way. I don’t want to divert from the topic.

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