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  • BjorkLennon Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    @iTCB13

     

    Thanks for the tip. I will check it out.

  • BjorkLennon Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    Thank you @Rey Mo it is fine, I don't have a lot of users, just me.

     

    However, I have moved to my 'own' mail hosting because I don't like Google knowing it ALL. I mean yeah, they know a lot, but not everything everything... just yet.

  • a little north of south Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    i'm also on hostgator and use mail, and have found that the mail opens many connections and forgets to close them (hostgator imap limit 25). so when i open mail a second time, my imap connection limit is reached, god knows what'd happen if i had 8+ employees trying to use mail, it prob just wouldn't work and all my sites would be offline coz i get a "500 connection error, too many connections"..... 

     

    apple could prob use the iphones gyro to guide the shuttle to the moon if they wanted, but can't get imap working...:0(

    the ****? we're nearly in 2013!!!!! ***?

     

     

    i contacted hostgator and spoke online with live chat, and the tech said "yes it's a known prob with mail, use thunderbird" i've been using that for a while and it's quite good but doesn't feel mac like. It does close imap connections when quiting which is great.

     

    having said that. i've also been testing SPARROW for the last week and while i have cpanel open to check connections, it too works correctly e.g. opens and closes connections on quit.

     

    so IMHO if you want a mac like app that feels like mail, use sparrow, looks very similar to mail, and works correctly as in doesn't leave imap open on quit. i'm gonna get the rest of my email over to this prog and keep testing. hope that helps. interestingly, it seems to open less connections even than thunderbird.

     

     

    another thing i like about sparrow, is they've built in dropbox and cloudapp, so if you want to send mail with large attachments, it sends them to the cloud first and then i guess the recipient gets a link to which they download. (in theory, haven't been on the receiving end yet, so can't varify) thunderbird has a feature like this too with yousendit. mail is so behind now in terms of emailing.

    switch to sparrow, or at least give it a try and let us know on here if things work out better as they did for me.

    cheers

  • petergales Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    Just adding my name here as someone with the same problem.  Perhaps Apple needs more people to say it's a problem before they fix it.

  • Cyb3rZ3us Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    The discrete IMAP processes are opened one for each type of data you store on the server: Inbox, Trash, Sent, Junk.  This is done to make the app more robust, reduce data handling errors, and make the system more effiecient and handle your message faster.  Think of it this way, you have 1000 cars each destined for 4 different cities but they all need to get through a toll booth - which is better: One lane per destination city or one lane for all cities?  Yes, the former which is exactly what Apple has done here.

     

    Also, as an aside, the fact that many "personal" hosting plans have aribitrary limits on thenumber of concurrent processes is BS and horrible engineering.  IMAP processes are almost always idle & they are not using that many resources unless there is actual data flowing.  So having the proceses spun up and waiting for something to happen has little to no impact on the host system.  These clowns at these numerous hosting companies have no idea what they are doing.

     

    Many of you love the Mail.app and for good reason - it is an awesome piece of software and wonderfully engineered.  One reason why is becuase of things like this that make the app far more robust and efficient.  Apple did a good thing here and the right thing to do is make the hiosting companies get thier act together rather than compel Apple to make an awesome app worse off so it can "comply".

  • Csound1 Level 8 Level 8 (44,275 points)

    Cyb3rZ3us wrote:

     

    The discrete IMAP processes are opened one for each type of data you store on the server: Inbox, Trash, Sent, Junk.  This is done to make the app more robust, reduce data handling errors, and make the system more effiecient and handle your message faster.  Think of it this way, you have 1000 cars each destined for 4 different cities but they all need to get through a toll booth - which is better: One lane per destination city or one lane for all cities?  Yes, the former which is exactly what Apple has done here.

     

    Also, as an aside, the fact that many "personal" hosting plans have aribitrary limits on thenumber of concurrent processes is BS and horrible engineering.  IMAP processes are almost always idle & they are not using that many resources unless there is actual data flowing.  So having the proceses spun up and waiting for something to happen has little to no impact on the host system.  These clowns at these numerous hosting companies have no idea what they are doing.

     

    Many of you love the Mail.app and for good reason - it is an awesome piece of software and wonderfully engineered.  One reason why is becuase of things like this that make the app far more robust and efficient.  Apple did a good thing here and the right thing to do is make the hiosting companies get thier act together rather than compel Apple to make an awesome app worse off so it can "comply".

    You do realize that you are replying (resurrecting) a 3 year old posting?

  • Cyb3rZ3us Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    Hmmm interesting - I see several posts that are as recent as 4-5 months ago.  Regardless, you care why???

  • Csound1 Level 8 Level 8 (44,275 points)

    Waste of space, start a new post rather than digging up old ones.

  • Cyb3rZ3us Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    LOL - you are clearly clueless forum troll.  Let's see - it makes WAY more sense to have islands of discussions on similar topics rather than to collect relevant and related information in a smaller set of threads- ya shure you betcha.  You're the kind of person who thinks it's best to open multiple trouble tickets for the exact same issue.  The only wate of space is this little meaningless discussion we're having right now...and it's now over.  Get a life brah...

  • Csound1 Level 8 Level 8 (44,275 points)

    You are still picking a 3 year old post to reply to, I guess you meant to reply to me but failed to do so correctly, I hope that the OP likes your pointless posts turning up in his email 3 years after he posted. And as you can not succesfully pick the correct post to reply I know all I need to know about your abilities.

     

    Futzak

  • Fancytricks Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    Ok so yes this is a problem, but not with Apple. It's soly to do with the mail server.

     

    Hosts (Cheap) limit the connections becasue if they didn't you probably wouldn't get mail as it would die.

     

    Solution,  use thunderbird. It's the only mail application that you can specify the connections. I have the same issue with outlook, but I know most mail clients allow 10 connections, as most mail servers allow 15 per IP.

     

    Thunderbird you can limit to 5 and this will fix that error.

  • Adrian.Clark.au Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    I know this is an old thread, but for those that follow....

     

    For an answer to this, try (long version):

    http://premium.wpmudev.org/blog/warning-your-iphone-or-mac-mail-may-be-killing-y our-website/

    or (short version):

    http://support.hostgator.com/articles/specialized-help/email/setting-up-email-fo r-the-apple-iphone

     

    Too Many Connections - 500 Errors?

    On the iPhone there is a function called "push," and when it is enabled it keeps the connection to our server open and continually checks mail. Consequently, this creates many IMAP processes and eventually conflicts with our Terms of Service.

    To avoid running excessive IMAP processes, you can disable push when you don't need it.

    1. Go to Settings > Mail, Contacts, Calendars > Fetch New Data.
    2. Toggle Push to Off.

    Now, instead of retrieving emails continuously as they arrive, your iPhone will use the global Fetch setting to retrieve emails manually or at intervals.

     

    This solved my equivalent issue with Hostgator and my wife's iPhone...

  • msoulier Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    My company is paying for Google services, and this issue is still happening.

     

    Why the **** isn't there a control in mail.app to limit the number of connections? Any decent client allows that.

  • Csound1 Level 8 Level 8 (44,275 points)

    Can you show me where that control is in Microsoft Outlook?

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