Move close/minimize buttons in any window to the right side

mathber wrote:

Is there an update on this ? Someone wrote this :

Follow on - User profile " Mac mini, macOS 13.2 • "

The current version, as of this writing, is version 13.3.1(a)•

With a pending release of version • 13.4

I'm not sure if it means that there was a plan to implement that feature into those versions, but I cannot find any trace of it in MacOS 14.x

If this was never implemented, can anyone name a third-party product?

Apple has never had the Red, Yellow , Green button on the right side.

As for a Third Party Application to Override the Apple UI - that can not be done.

The Operating System resides in a Sealed and Read Only Volume that cannot be opened by the User nor by Third Party Applications.

Adrian9854 wrote:

Did apple finally implemented this ? Is there a way to move these buttons to their natural position ?

FWIW, you're welcome to send feedback but since the buttons have been on the left for over 21 years, they're not likely to change.

No

The user is welcome to offer this suggest to Apple via their Product Feedback portal

Natural to you, maybe… as a mac user since 1985 (oh boy, I am old 😎) it doesn’t seem natural to me.

but anyway, how often do people even click those buttons? Me: hardly ever. Command-W to close is easier than hitting the red button. I don’t do full screen but it can be done with Command-Control-F. Minimizing: double click the window bar anywhere.

If one is programming an application, there are all the resources to create your own window types and custom behaviors. Some kind of system extension that would change all windows may be possible to create, but it is much more complicated and it won’t come from Apple, for sure.

A bit late in the game here, but I tend to agree with you that Apple could have offered us the opportunity to change some of the user interface characteristics ... but, apparently, chose to limit what can be changed by the user. At the opposite extreme, a number of Linux variants do provide this. I happen to like "playing" with Debian/Plasma. With it, I have literally hundreds of interface options, including where those button will go (& even look like).

FWIW, my first Apple was a IIc. The next was a Mac mini in 2006, running OS X Tiger. I can concur with others here, that those buttons have been on the left side, at least, since then. Although I don't have the link handy, I know that there is a website where you can run rudimentary versions of Mac operating systems from well before OS X, and see for yourself if you are interested.

This is not a " Democracy ", tongue in cheek, were we get to Vote on where the Buttons are placed.

Apple, as a previous contributor has mentioned, has had the button in Top Left since I joined the Apple Eco-System back in 2005 with OS X 10.4 Tiger on a Motorola PPC

I have used a long list of various UNIX operating systems with varying window treatments, VMS, macOS (including Classic), MS Windows, and Linux operating systems and simply adapt to the controls on the extant window title bar without any confusion at all. On Linux, I use the Cinnamon Desktop with a custom theme that transforms the dull default Linux title bar controls into Apple-like traffic lights.

Apple licenses the operating system to us and in that regard, they have made no provision for right-hand title bar controls in multiple decades.

You don't need to use the three buttons. Use the following:

To close the window just use the key combination ⌘+w.

To minimize the window use ⌘+m.

To enter/exit full screen use fn+F

Adrian9854 wrote:

Apple do not care, they did not provide this feature.

Apparently neither does Microsoft or most Linux distributions.

PS: When majority of OS move buttons to the bottom, Apple should provide that feature too, why not, we are paying for it after all.

Actually you are paying for the hardware. The OS comes with.

Not that I know of.

Adrian9854 wrote:

Sure but as someone who is paying for Apple product I think we should have a choice. Anyway, there is no need in "flogging a dead horse".

Apple do not care, they did not provide this feature.

Thanks everybody.

PS: When majority of OS move buttons to the bottom, Apple should provide that feature too, why not, we are paying for it after all.

Perhaps one of the other contributors can clarify this.

But I do not remember the Last time I PAID for a version of macOS

So the assertion of " Paid " is a bit off

We pay for the Devices but the OS itself, Not.

Is there an update on this ? Someone wrote this :

• Follow on - User profile " Mac mini, macOS 13.2 "
• The current version, as of this writing, is version 13.3.1(a)
• With a pending release of version 13.4

I'm not sure if it means that there was a plan to implement that feature into those versions, but I cannot find any trace of it in MacOS 14.x

If this was never implemented, can anyone name a third-party product?