Every window/program that I open, opens on the opposite of my two display screens. Why?

No matter how I do it... if I open System Preferences using the dock on my MacBook Pro, the System Preferences window will open on my Samsung display. If I then drag the System Preferences window over to my MacBook Pro and close it and open it again, once again, it opens on the Samsung display. Conversely, when I close it and then use the dock on my Samsung display to open System Preferences, once again, the System Preferences window opens on my MacBook Pro screen over on the right. Apple's programming demonstrates that they have written in to the code that no matter which display you use, open every program and every window on the opposite display.


So is Apple programming to make users mad in order to push them to using one of their programs to fix this?


NOTE: SPACES IS NOT AN APPROPRIATE FIX FOR THIS BECAUSE THE SUGGESTION TO USE SPACES TO FORCE AN APP TO OPEN IN A SPECIFIC WINDOW DOESN'T SOLVE THIS CORE PROGRAMMING FROM APPLE.


Once again, how do we fix Apple's continued illogical and obtuse programming.

MacBook Pro 13″, OS X 10.11

Posted on May 21, 2023 12:43 PM

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Posted on Jun 2, 2023 8:32 AM

On the Display arrangement screen in the System Preferences, you will see one of the displays showing a menubar while the other ones will be missing the menu bar. It can be hard to see as it is a very thin light gray band representing the menu bar. Just drag that menu bar representation to the display you want to be the main one. This is all done on the Display Arrangement screen within the Display System Preferences.


Edit: I don't have access to Big Sur at the moment, but it should be on the screen where you arrange the monitor positions relative to one another. See the white bar on the left display in this picture:


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Jun 2, 2023 8:32 AM in response to J Bertram

On the Display arrangement screen in the System Preferences, you will see one of the displays showing a menubar while the other ones will be missing the menu bar. It can be hard to see as it is a very thin light gray band representing the menu bar. Just drag that menu bar representation to the display you want to be the main one. This is all done on the Display Arrangement screen within the Display System Preferences.


Edit: I don't have access to Big Sur at the moment, but it should be on the screen where you arrange the monitor positions relative to one another. See the white bar on the left display in this picture:


Jun 2, 2023 10:31 AM in response to J Bertram

There are 2 utilities I have used to memorize where I want apps to open, position and size windows.


Stay

https://cordlessdog.com/stay/


And Moom

https://manytricks.com/moom/

There is a menu item for memorizing window positions and sizes.


I currently use Moom, but before that I used Stay. Both are paid apps, but they have demo periods.


Both apps are great when you have to disconnect the external monitor as the can memorize window placement and sizes based on monitor configurations.

Jun 1, 2023 12:31 PM in response to J Bertram

Apple menu -> System Preferences -> Displays, drag the menubar representation to the other display and see if the behavior is still erratic. If it is, then it is the application and its home display that is controlling where windows are opening up. The home display for the application is typically the window it first opens up in. If you save a document in an open application it will typically remember where it last saved the window location. Using the Option key while clicking the green control lets you force the window to maximize on the display that has the most content of the window.

Jun 2, 2023 4:12 PM in response to J Bertram

J Bertram wrote:

Logically, if I select the menubar on the bottom of a particular screen, then what I select to open should open in that screen and not the opposite screen. There would need to be a setting to do that but Apple has not provided one. When I select an app on the menu bar on the Samsung display, the app opens on my MacBook Pro. Conversely, when I bring up the menu bar on my MacBook Pro and open an app, that app opens on the Samsung display.

Also, in preferences, I have my menu bar set to stay visible ("Automatically hide and show dock" in preferences is not checked) yet my menu bar is not visible on either display and I have to take my mouse to the bottom of the display in which I want to see the menu bar. So that preference is not working either. Another preference that doesn't work as stated.

I think you are confusing the menu bar which is the bar at the top of the screen which has all the menus such as the "Apple", "File", "Edit", "View", etc. items.


The bar at the bottom (or on the sides if moved by the user) is the Dock which holds shortcuts to apps & documents. The Dock will move between displays (not sure what triggers it to move). All I know is that you need to move the pointer off the screen at the location of the Dock in order to bring the Dock to the current monitor (this can sometimes be tricky, especially depending on the arrangement of the various monitors & the position of the Dock.


The Dock is where you can launch applications. The menu bar only gives you access to various menu options for an app which currently has focus. The exceptions are the Apple menu and the icons on the right half of the screen which can show the Control Center, Battery icon, WiFi icon, and there may be icons from other apps there for selecting various options (like showing the weather conditions).


As for the moderation, it is hard to say, but most times it will involve accidentally posting personal information (a serial number is considered personal information so it may not always be obvious), or posting on a topic against the forum rules (again, this can cover things not always obvious). Unfortunately we are not always told exactly why the item was edited or removed. Even the forum will sometimes automatically sanitize a single word after clicking the "Post" button (I've seen it happen to normal everyday words). It can be quite frustrating even for regular contributors.

Jun 2, 2023 8:09 AM in response to a brody

I'm using 11.6/Big Sur.


I don't know what you mean by, "drag the menubar representation to the other display". There is no option for this in the preference windows that you suggest opening.


It doesn't matter which app I use, this system is opening windows in the opposite display. I just got an email in my mail app which was on my MacBook Pro on the right and when I opened that email it opened the new email window on this Samsung display on the left. If I open preferences on the MacBook Pro, the preferences window opens on the Samsung and vice versa. Apple programming is absolutely maddening. It is pure trash. It makes no sense.

Jun 2, 2023 9:29 AM in response to HWTech

Great. Thanks for that screen shot. I do have that. I had that white bar on my MacBook Pro screen in that setting, as it is the main computer and the Samsung is a secondary display. Logically, if I select the menubar on the bottom of a particular screen, then what I select to open should open in that screen and not the opposite screen. There would need to be a setting to do that but Apple has not provided one. When I select an app on the menu bar on the Samsung display, the app opens on my MacBook Pro. Conversely, when I bring up the menu bar on my MacBook Pro and open an app, that app opens on the Samsung display. It makes no sense. It would seem there is a preference that is set to always open on the opposite display but there isn't a preference like that... It is just a code that Apple has set that we can not change. I moved the bar over to the Samsung, which you state will make the Samsung the main display, which is not logically what I want. But I'll see what that does.


Also, in preferences, I have my menu bar set to stay visible ("Automatically hide and show dock" in preferences is not checked) yet my menu bar is not visible on either display and I have to take my mouse to the bottom of the display in which I want to see the menu bar. So that preference is not working either. Another preference that doesn't work as stated.


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