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iMessage and iCloud id’s don’t match

I can not find iMessage anywhere. It is as though someone age restricted it. It vanished completely, but has a different ID when I log out and back on. Is there a way to discover if a developer hijacked my account with Restricted app access?

Posted on May 23, 2023 4:02 AM

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Posted on May 23, 2023 8:47 AM

1: Sign into your Apple ID (yellow highlight, below)


2: Resolve whatever issues are shown (red highlight)


Now a question…


Is either Focus or Screen Time enabled? If so, disable it.

Use Focus on your iPhone or iPad - Apple Support

Use Screen Time on your iPhone, iPad, or iPod touch - Apple Support



Things to fix:



PS” As for “developers hijacking” anything, I’d suggest avoiding attribution without some evidence. While iPhone hacks are possible, so far they’ve been rare and targeted per all available evidence. And absolutely nothing here looks like what an exploit would reasonably seek to achieve.

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May 23, 2023 8:47 AM in response to Newapplehere

1: Sign into your Apple ID (yellow highlight, below)


2: Resolve whatever issues are shown (red highlight)


Now a question…


Is either Focus or Screen Time enabled? If so, disable it.

Use Focus on your iPhone or iPad - Apple Support

Use Screen Time on your iPhone, iPad, or iPod touch - Apple Support



Things to fix:



PS” As for “developers hijacking” anything, I’d suggest avoiding attribution without some evidence. While iPhone hacks are possible, so far they’ve been rare and targeted per all available evidence. And absolutely nothing here looks like what an exploit would reasonably seek to achieve.

May 24, 2023 8:04 AM in response to Newapplehere

Evidence of fraud is a criminal matter. Contact legal representation, or police.


Apple devices can be and have been hacked.


Users’ credentials and practices can and have led to exploitations, as well.


What you have described as “timestomping” is much more likely a corruption.


31-Dec-1969 is the Unix epoch, with a timezone offset. It’s a zero in a data structure. So too is the reporte size. Another zero. That’s usually a corruption.


Apple does not document the internal operations and handling of an Apple ID.


You will not receive forensic help here, as that’s basically impossible without detailed and direct access. Whatever advice can be offered here will already be known to you, too. Which in aggregate means changing your approach. And in the unlikely case that you are the target of the sorts of exploits you claim—you won’t get the help around here, or in any other forum for that matter—sufficiently tailored to your particular situation.

May 23, 2023 3:46 PM in response to MrHoffman

Thank you. That wasn’t the issue. But I wholeheartedly appreciate your help. My personal hacker is a developer that has followed me across multiple devices, platforms, and hijacks networks. I know I have to use constructive words, but I don’t know a better word than developer. When I first was able to log onto Appleid, it kept taking me to log in as a developer. I know my account has been hijacked. So after weeks of failed attempts to view my own account data, oddly enough it if filled with Account conversions and Converted appleid credentials. I would never think anyone with Apple would do this, but I know my hacker would and could.


Do you have any idea what AOS Customer Account Service is?

May 23, 2023 4:12 PM in response to Newapplehere

Newapplehere wrote:

Thank you. That wasn’t the issue. But I wholeheartedly appreciate your help. My personal hacker is a developer that has followed me across multiple devices, platforms, and hijacks networks. I know I have to use constructive words, but I don’t know a better word than developer. When I first was able to log onto Appleid, it kept taking me to log in as a developer. I know my account has been hijacked. So after weeks of failed attempts to view my own account data, oddly enough it if filled with Account conversions and Converted appleid credentials. I would never think anyone with Apple would do this, but I know my hacker would and could.

Do you have any idea what AOS Customer Account Service is?


You either don’t have a “personal hacker” following you across multiple devices and platforms and networks and that there are other explanations for the (mis)behaviors reported, or your “personal hacker” is local and trusted and with your credentials, or you are worth far more as a target (investigative journalist, dissident, rich, with access to sensitive or classified or financial information, etc) and requiring security advice and assistance and forensics well past what can be reasonably provided here.


If this and related matters have been ongoing for months or years and across devices and platforms and networks as stated, and assuming you’ve posted on this matter before as is common for these cases, there is little new that can be suggested here; little or nothing you have not already encountered, and have considered and implemented as locally appropriate.


Where is this headed? Either you or somebody you hire will need to gather some evidence of compromise, and will need to discuss your particular risks and threats and potential responses. Forum discussions… can’t really addressing that.


None of this is likely going to get addressed here.

May 24, 2023 4:02 AM in response to MrHoffman

My personal hacker is of the third mentioned. I have evidence of fraud.


The only reason I ask questions here is because Apple products have a reputation of being difficult (most misuse the term impossible) to hack. But asking questions and getting replies from more experienced people, helps me build a vocabulary that better describes the situation. Yesterday I finally understood the term for why Apps and Files were showing 0 data with an installed and last used date of 12/31/1969. Timestomping has been reported by myself. Investigations without the technical description, overlook them.


Reading other people’s questions and concerns, lets me know that techniques used are more common. The replies are usually less helpful or lack technical support. You are the first reply I have seen that attempted to actually help

Thank You.


Know I am looking for a better understanding of how my AppleID could be converted within Apple. My Data shows someone buying ITunes products and completely converting my ID. AOS is another concern. I know my hackers use false claims of Company Ownership and Developer testing to augment the Bootloaders. My IPhone has been wiped twice, but the core apps are discribed as active, but are not visable on device. Maybe Age/Content Restrictions? I don’t know, so I ask hope if someone else does.

iMessage and iCloud id’s don’t match

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