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Recovering playlists after ugraded iTunes

After I have upgraded to newer versions of iTunes in the past, I always have lost tons of music, although most was recovered either by reripping CDs or by scouring my harddrives to locate the original files. Understanding that from the saved iTunes library I can recover most of what is eliminated during an upgrade is there any way to recover playlists intact? Some of these I have spent countless hours composing and in the past I have always had to recompose after an upgrade. Does anyone have any pearls on maybe how to preserve my library intact as well as my current playlist? My phone needs a software update and iTunes states that this cannot happen without upgrading to the most recent version. Any help here would be greatly appreciated. I am currently using iTunes version 9.0.3.15 and am using Windows 7 Home Premium OS. Thanks in advance for any help to this matter.
Keith

Custom Build, Windows 7

Posted on Aug 18, 2010 6:49 PM

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Aug 19, 2010 4:01 AM in response to joyof60

OK,...can someone tell me how to find the libaries needed so I can at least try to back up what i already have? I dont see the library file in the usual place or I may at best be looking in the wrong place, I havn't done this in a long time due the horror I experienced the last time I upgraded. But..alas..here we go again.

Aug 19, 2010 4:08 AM in response to joyof60

Not trying to be a pain or repetitious but I have review associated threads for the answers and find most to be confusing. One about a "shift start" that sounded scary and another about renaming files and moving them to different locations that scared me worse. I am really trying hard not to lose my music again. I am comfortable with a current backup plan if I knew where the files were to back up. also does anyone know if when I do reinstall my library am I going to again duplicate and triplicate files that have to be weeded out? Again any help here would be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance.

Aug 19, 2010 6:54 AM in response to joyof60

The itunes database file that saves all your playlists, ratings, play counts and so on is a file named iTunes Library.itl
The normal folder path for Vista/Windows 7 is here
C:\Users\ username \Music\iTunes



Sounds like you might have several of them on your PC's hard drives. If you do a windows search for them, how many do you find?
Just go to Start > search and type in .itl
You might have to click on "See more results" and then click on Computer

Aug 20, 2010 3:17 PM in response to joyof60

Thanks for the response, K, I do find the .itl libraries. Some of these have dates tagged to them as I guess thes process has been going on for a few years.Now if I upgrade iTunes and need to restore my library and playlists these will be the files I need to do this with? Also I just did a backup to DVD of my files and lists in iTunes. When I do the upgrade to iTunes would it actuall be possible to restore the contents to the new iTunes from this backup? It took about 9-10 DVD's. I aploigise for so many questions , I am just so apprehensive about any iTunes upgrade. Thanks again for your help!

Aug 20, 2010 4:40 PM in response to joyof60

+Thanks for the response, K, I do find the .itl libraries. Some of these have dates tagged to them as I guess thes process has been going on for a few years.+


Yes, every time itunes does an upgrade it should put the current ITL file in a folder named "Previous iTunes Libraries".
You can look at the Date Modified in Windows Explorer to see which one has the most recent changes.



+Now if I upgrade iTunes and need to restore my library and playlists these will be the files I need to do this with?+
Yes, the ITL file is the important database file for itunes. Then of course you need all the media files themselves.



+Also I just did a backup to DVD of my files and lists in iTunes. When I do the upgrade to iTunes would it actuall be possible to restore the contents to the new iTunes from this backup? It took about 9-10 DVD's.+
In theory, yes. But I have never gotten itunes to restore properly when I tested my restore plan. It burned the discs OK, but failed in the middle of the restore. When I burn a disk for backup I use the burning software that came with the PC, not itunes.

Aug 23, 2010 6:19 AM in response to joyof60

There's no tutorial for your special circumstances:
+After I have upgraded to newer versions of iTunes in the past, I always have lost tons of music, although most was recovered either by reripping CDs or by scouring my harddrives to locate the original files+



This isn't supposed to happen. An upgrade shouldn't be 'losing' anything. It should update C:/Program Files, put an old copy of the ITL in the Previous iTunes Library folder, and not touch any of your music/video/podcast etc files.



To get to the root cause - what do you mean by 'losing' tons of music?
Are you getting the dreaded ! original file not found message?
Are you storing your media on external hard drives? Do those drive letters always stay the same, or do they change depending on what you have plugged into your USB ports?



Here is the best explanation I've seen of itunes library database vs itunes library content. Some folks say it's too wordy, but the paragraph of databse vs content is very informative.
http://www.ilounge.com/index.php/articles/comments/moving-your-itunes-library-to -a-new-hard-drive/

Aug 25, 2010 7:30 AM in response to joyof60

OK, that explains a few things, thanks! I will try the process again and see what happens.
By the way do you have any idea as to why I continue to get a message when I first load iTunes that I am running in compatability mode? I have never set iTunes to run in compatability mode and when I check to see, I find that iTunes is indeed not set to run in compatability mode. Any ideas what gives here??

Aug 25, 2010 12:46 PM in response to joyof60

I am not sure about the compatibility mode, since I've never seen that message.


When I installed itunes on my WIn 7 machine, I downloaded it from the apple website and chose SAVE for the setup file (as opposed to RUN).
Then in my administrator account, I right-clicked on iTunesSetup.exe and chose "run as adminstrator" and answered yes to the UAC messages.

Aug 25, 2010 1:34 PM in response to joyof60

I reall hate to keep sounding so stupid, but please understand that earlier when I said I lost tons of music I meant close to 25GB of tunes most of which were ripped from CD's that required me to go and name the individual songs to keep them from being listed as 'track 1', 'track 2' and so on. Are you saying that I might get a cleaner install if I download a clean version of iTunes and then import my library and playlists. If this is true is there a way to backup my library to my HDD instead of using DVDs as this takes about 9 disks to do. And thanks again so much for your help and indulgence so far.

Aug 25, 2010 6:25 PM in response to joyof60

+most of which were ripped from CD's that required me to go and name the individual songs to keep them from being listed as 'track 1', 'track 2' and so on.+

Did you rip them as WAV? Or the itunes default, which is AAC? AAC and mp3 files should keep the file name stored in the files themselves. WAV files, I can see them showing up as 'track 1' if you've reimported them to itunes and lost the old database file that kept track of the WAV track names.


+Are you saying that I might get a cleaner install if I download a clean version of iTunes and then import my library and playlists.+
No, I'm saying you might get a more workable install if you reinstall using "run as administrator". The compatibility mode error might go away.
WHen you say import my library and playlists, what exactly are you talking about?
Dragging them into the itunes window or something else?




+is there a way to backup my library to my HDD instead of using DVDs as this takes about 9 disks to do.+
Absolutely. You need to back up the content files and the ITL database file.

Aug 26, 2010 4:46 AM in response to joyof60

+WHen you say import my library and playlists, what exactly are you talking about?+
+Dragging them into the itunes window or something else?+

I'm talking about the process I did last time which I think had something to do with copying the folder to my desktop and importing from there.(I'll have to read a past post to see exactly the steps involved.

+is there a way to backup my library to my HDD instead of using DVDs as this takes about 9 disks to do.+
+Absolutely. You need to back up the content files and the ITL database file.+

OK , that would be great, could you tell me how to do this?
The only option I can find is to backup to CD's or DVD's. By content files are you referring to the individual songs? I have over 3,000 of these.

Aug 26, 2010 4:52 AM in response to joyof60

+No, I'm saying you might get a more workable install if you reinstall using "run as administrator". The compatibility mode error might go away.+

I've been running iTunes using 'run as administrator' but I continue to get the same message. (running in compatability mode) Should I do a clean intall from Apple or attempt an upgrade from within iTunes?

Aug 26, 2010 12:16 PM in response to joyof60

+The only option I can find is to backup to CD's or DVD's. By content files are you referring to the individual songs? I have over 3,000 of these.+

Yes, that's the only option available in itunes. I don't even bother with itunes for backups, because I have other files on my PC that I want o make sure I have backed up. Instead, I use SyncToy from Microsoft, with the echo option. This allows incremental backups of only fils that have changed.
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?familyid=c26efa36-98e0-4ee9-a7c5 -98d0592d8c52&displaylang=en

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