Saferi Forwarding Problem

Safari will not open my websites that uses forwarding with the primary domain name. Internet Explorer works just fine. How can something like this be happening? Apple needs to fix this like RIGHT NOW...

Firebolt, Mac OS X (10.4.3)

Posted on Dec 2, 2005 12:12 PM

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Dec 2, 2005 1:31 PM in response to Owl2Hagrid

Thanks for the note... I'm finding out that this has been a problem for about a week and Apple has not provided a fix/patch. Just in case Apple doesn't understand just how critical this is, just think how much money Apple would loose if people could not get to Apple website for a week... If it was them loosing money and customers, the problem would be fixed within minutes...

This problem needs to be fixed NOW no matter how many people at Apple have to work overtime...

PS... I do have to say, even though I don't subscribe to the blame game, yet I find it a bit sceary that Apple has not made some sort of announcement...

For crying out loud, this is not a small issue... People cannot connect to websites that uses forwarding...

Dec 2, 2005 2:07 PM in response to Owl2Hagrid

Good suggestion about Bug Report... I just spoke to someone who works with one of the effected domain companies who provide forwarding... Apple's new Safari version 2.0.2 has a problem with standard "302 Forwarding". Some people who are discussing this issue thought that at least one of the bigger companies that offer forwarding changed their software.

This is an Apple problem.

PS... If you first open IE and connect to the site, or ping the site, then Safari will open the forwarded domain correctly.

I will report this through Safari and reference this thread.

Hopefully they will respond soon with a fix...

Dec 3, 2005 7:28 AM in response to Owl2Hagrid

I hope the Safari folks at Apple reads this forum. If so, they will see just how big of a problem this is... The sad thing is that we are seeing more and more post about this issue....

Hey Apple, just image how much time and gref you are causing people who discover this problem and spend hours trying to find out why their domains are not working, not to mention that they are loosing money, customers, etc...

Dec 7, 2005 11:15 AM in response to Owl2Hagrid

Actually, Apple's Safari web browser and Opera's Opera web browser do not have a problem with correctly formed 302 redirects.

The problem is GoDaddy recently implemented a non-standard 302 redirect and the headers are malformed - this is causing Opera and Safari to glitch and just show a blank page.

GoDaddy needs to revert to their previously used domain forwarding setup and correct their 302 headers.

This is really no different than typical website code glitches - the webmaster, not the browser author, is responsible for fixing the code or providing a work around so that websites work in all web browsers as intended.

And to get an idea of the scale of this problem, we're talking about roughly 17 million Safari users and an unadvertised number of Opera users who can't browse websites parked and forwarded by GoDaddy.

Dec 7, 2005 11:25 AM in response to Owl2Hagrid

Hi ZM... I've been monitoring this problem now for several weeks and I can tell that you are affected by this issue as well, and as well as thousands of other poeple.

I call Register.com technical support, they are who I'm using for domain registration and forwardings. I asked them if they used GoDaddy and what their take was on the issues. The technician was aware of the issue but was not 100% clean on if they used or was associated with GoDaddy... However, he did go and talk with some other techs and came back on the line to say that the problem was caused by the changes to Safari...

All in all, this is a mess... And it makes it even harder when Apple is not responding... Just like a big company, if they figure it's not their issue, they just put their head in the sand...

Dec 7, 2005 11:45 AM in response to Owl2Hagrid

Owl2Hagrid, thank you for your response. I too have been involved and tracking this problem for weeks.

I don't expect Apple to responsd because it isn't a problem they caused. Their browser is programmed to operate according to standards. I also don't expect them to respond because they are just a big company. In fact, if you wanted to speculate based on previous situation, Apple almost never responds to situations like this.

The problem is the redirect itself and the fact it does not conforming to standards. Not only was the tech at Register.com not truthful with you, he also didn't know what he was talking about. That's easily discerned by the fact he had to 'ask someone else' for an answer to give you to get you off the phone.

It's easy to fall into the trap they try to put you in - the trap that if other web browsers don't have a problem, then the problem is with the browser that does have a problem.

I can say with almost 100% certainty that the problem is on the registrar's end and not Apple. If I'm wrong, I'll apologize. But we'll see... and hopefully soon.

The truth is Apple could release a patch that would resolve the issue. But that doesn't preclude GoDaddy or whoever from releasing another version of their forwarding if it doesn't comply with current standards.

I mean, what is the point of standards if noone follows them?

Dec 7, 2005 12:22 PM in response to Owl2Hagrid

Hi thread,

When you complain to goDaddy about this issue, they seem to be referring to this thread. this thread has somewhat resolved that Safari is to blame for the problem, I want to send you all back to the much more involved thread that has very clearly troubleshot the problem and has concluded this is a goDaddy problem, just to make sure you get both sides of the argument.

http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?messageID=1293522

Dec 7, 2005 1:01 PM in response to Owl2Hagrid

ZM - I've started a new Thread called "GoDaddy Safari Forwarding Problem GSFP". I'm hoping that it will draw comments from GoDaddy or Apple, plus I will use it to post my finding of test to determine the issue.

All in all, Safari Version 1.3.1 for Mac OS 10.3.9 "Panther" does not have this problem.

That makes it highly suspect that it is an Apple problem, plus, if my memory serves me correctly, I didn't have the problem until I updated from Mac OS 10.4.2 to 10.4.3. As mentioned in the new forum, I will setup and test to determine if earlier versions of the Safari 2.0.x browser had this problem.

Dec 7, 2005 1:01 PM in response to Owl2Hagrid

Well, the same problem happens with the political aggregator www.buzzflash.com. Okay, some of you are quite happy that that site now is problematical, but I'm not -- and the same would go if a right-wing site of similar design was unusable, too. You click on the headline, and it stalls on the redirect, or sometimes gets to the blank page. Firefox 1.5 is the same, roughly. Internet Explorer does not have the problem. It may be, it seems to me, that this might have been put in place as part of the effort to stop phishing from redirecting your paypal to "phony paypal," but it don't work. it's too strict.

There is a workaround, I find. Opt-click, or right-click, on the headline, and choose "open in new page," and you're fine. This almost always works for me.

PowerMac G5 Dual 2.0 Mac OS X (10.4)

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