Location Privacy is broken after installing 13.5 update

Apps no longer show up under Location Services under Privacy and Security after installing 13.5 update.


As a result users are unable to edit location permissions or see what apps have location access.


If a new app tries to request location services, it doesn’t show in System Settings so it’s impossible to enable it. Hopefully macOS 13.5.1 will address that issue.

Mac mini (M1, 2020)

Posted on Jul 25, 2023 1:02 AM

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dragontorc wrote:

Weather Guru, FindMy, Maps, Google Chrome, Safari and Siri are some of the apps that require location access.

App location privacy settings are no longer shown in the Security & Privacy preferences after applying the 13.5 update.


https://discussions.apple.com/content/attachment/597a0c29-0de6-4624-9b32-8b40ebbe8cbd

Yes, the Location Services in " Privacy & Security " has changed and does not Expressly List all the Applications that use this service.


This is a change in Appearance from previous version of Ventura


But it does not mean it is broken as per se


Have just done a few tests running some different Applications that would require this Location Service functions.


They all work as expected


I have noticed a newer appearance of an icon in Upper Right of the Menu Bar.


It will appear with a small Blue Dot and pulsate bright Blue and then to almost white each time an Application that uses the Location Service


It is part of the System Services which Location Service is part of it


We hope this answers your question or at least shed some light on it


All above is from a computer running Ventura 13.5




Posted on Jul 25, 2023 2:13 AM

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Jul 25, 2023 1:20 AM in response to dragontorc

dragontorc wrote:

Apps no longer show up under Location Services under Privacy and Security after installing 13.5 update.

As a result users are unable to edit location permissions or see what apps have location access.

If a new app tries to request location services, it doesn’t show in System Settings so it’s impossible to enable it. Hopefully macOS 13.5.1 will address that issue.

Does the user ( dragontorc ) can to share what Apps are in question ?


Allow apps to detect the location of your Mac - Apple Support (CA)


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Jul 25, 2023 2:13 AM in response to dragontorc

dragontorc wrote:

Weather Guru, FindMy, Maps, Google Chrome, Safari and Siri are some of the apps that require location access.

App location privacy settings are no longer shown in the Security & Privacy preferences after applying the 13.5 update.


https://discussions.apple.com/content/attachment/597a0c29-0de6-4624-9b32-8b40ebbe8cbd

Yes, the Location Services in " Privacy & Security " has changed and does not Expressly List all the Applications that use this service.


This is a change in Appearance from previous version of Ventura


But it does not mean it is broken as per se


Have just done a few tests running some different Applications that would require this Location Service functions.


They all work as expected


I have noticed a newer appearance of an icon in Upper Right of the Menu Bar.


It will appear with a small Blue Dot and pulsate bright Blue and then to almost white each time an Application that uses the Location Service


It is part of the System Services which Location Service is part of it


We hope this answers your question or at least shed some light on it


All above is from a computer running Ventura 13.5




Jul 25, 2023 3:19 AM in response to dragontorc

dragontorc wrote:

Due to this change users can't find a way to use the traditional slider switches to enable or disable access on the fly.

Of course I suppose the new design has already been implemented on macOS Sonoma, currently under development.

Thanks again for the useful information!

Welcome and thank you too.


Aside - agree on the Slider aspect of your above


If you are so inclined >>


Then have a few suggestions ;


1 - Get Support Choose a product and we’ll find you the best solution.Start now and open an Apple Support Ticket as they are Apple Employees to deal will these types of issues . 


2 - Product Feedback - Apple and make it known to Apple regarding this ongoing issue 


As for macOS 14 Sonoma and anything related to Beta Software - I am not in a position to speculate

Jul 26, 2023 2:40 AM in response to MircoT65

Short answer - Not possible


Whether we agree with this decision or not the best we can do is live with it or as previous suggests to another user


Then have a few suggestions ;


1 - Get Support Choose a product and we’ll find you the best solution.Start now and open an Apple Support Ticket as they are Apple Employees to deal will these types of issues . 


2 - Product Feedback - Apple and make it known to Apple regarding this ongoing issue 

Location Privacy is broken after installing 13.5 update

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