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Better way to edit MIDI Mapping in Logic with EZD and Superior Drummer 3?

I followed this video to use the MIDI Environment and edit the note names of the Piano Roll to match the drum hits in Superior Drummer 3 (SD3). It worked and I congratulate the author of the Video, but now I can not edit my MIDI composition on a neighboring track that uses another instance of that SD3. All I wanted was to see which notes correspond to the different HiHats, Ride, Crash, and other cymbals. Honestly, this should already be pre-populated upon loading SD3.


https://youtu.be/oQiBOduhyMY


Now, other tracks are not working right. Please help...

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Posted on Aug 23, 2023 1:51 PM

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Aug 23, 2023 2:04 PM in response to GuitarDick

I figured that it might be helpful to give more information. I did not want to be too long winded in the first post, sorry.


Apple, the process of editing the MIDI Environment was so stupid-tedious. It should not be this hard. Would you please fix this? It should pre-populate when a Virtual Instrument is loaded. The maker of this plugin has a MIDI map made. Why not allow theirs to load?


After manually typing in 136 different drum hits (by 2AM), I was ready to work on the track, as the MIDI Map worked!


As I began to edit the cymbals, I realized that I now had a strange, new, phantom cymbal triggering. It was on my SD3 Toms Track. and now, my SD3 toms are gone. I all worked fine before, but oh well, I will just quickly fix it, right?


WRONG!


So I tried to go into my "Sup...Toms" track (Superior Drummer 3, also), but I could not. Why? Well, while I was editing the MIDI Environment, I noticed that the SD3 Toms track became highlighted some how, and now it is not accessable at all.


Disappointed, I just went to bed. Apple did you do this; because, my Apple Watch showed you that I was still up at 2 AM? Was this your way of telling me, GO TO BED? Or did you insert an AI gremlin into Logic Pro that feels that my heavy use of TOMS is too Old School and that the new kids want overbearing HiHats? hahaha


Please help? Anyone MIDI Genius?


This image shows the MIDI Environment with the wiring going from the monitor to the "SupCymbals" track, not the "Sup...Toms" track, which has the issue. it also shows the Mixer window. The track with the issue is the one in the mixer track with the mouse pointer on it. You can see it light grey with no way to edit it.



Apple, I prepared a snippet of the song (16 seconds), too. We are musicians using Logic. I appreciate that you offer us the ability to show a picture, but we should be able to share an audio file of the issue here, too. Just saying...

Aug 23, 2023 2:15 PM in response to GuitarDick

I so appreciate it that you make tools like this for us to use, but please make it idiot-proof?


Could you please make it so that idiots like me, who know how to record, mix, and master, but don't know squat about the MIDI Environment can't break stuff?  Leave the MIDI Environment available for other MIDI geniuses, but make a simple way for those like me, like pre-populated MIDI maps? 


Why do you want us to spend our time with this stuff? We paid a fair amount of money to make music with your products?  I am happy to support you, could you please support us?


I mean SD3 has already made the MIDI maps and they are great, why don't you have logic just take the map directly from Toontrack's SD3?


Nov 3, 2023 12:02 AM in response to GuitarDick

Dear OP, isn't it great to find that you're really worth nothing?


Logical inquiry + Logical explanation (complete with screenshots) = Crickets! Not even so much as an automated response acknowledging your reaching out...sorry about that, brother.


The MIDI Environment is incredibly powerful, but just like you said...why so tedious and complicated! I used the Environment once to transform midi messages from a Line 6 FBV3 foot controller to send CC 69 midi so that I could switch between "snapshots" in the plugin version of their flagship Helix "Native". I was shocked by how complicated the task turned out to be when mapping ANY other parameter can be accomplished by performing a simple midi learn assignment.


Now, I've been playing/recording with a drummer using Superior Drummer 3 with Alesis Strike Pro SE electronic drums. When we review playback, there are all sorts of extra "phantom" midi notes, some audible and some not. We don't know if it's a trigger sensitivity issue, or if the drum module is producing these extra notes, or if Logic is somehow causing it? If anyone else has experienced this and has any ideas as to what is causing it, I'd certainly appreciate some shared insight.

Better way to edit MIDI Mapping in Logic with EZD and Superior Drummer 3?

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