Why does my mic produce low volume in FCP?

For years I have been used to seeing my various mics record very low volume in FCP even though the gain had been pushed to maximum. I have always had to boost the volume later with the volume adjustment line.


As a result, I assumed that they were not very good at picking up audio.


However, I have just been using one in Resolve and the VU meter is hitting red in the identical recording conditions!


In the examples below, I had my mic about 6 inches from my mouth and in FCP the meter was barely reaching -20db as you can see in the screenshot whereas in Resolve the same recording situation was pushing it into the red. Normally in Resolve I would have the mic at least a foot away.


Is there an explanation?


This shows FCP with maximum gain producing -20db from 6 inches . . .



Here is the Resolve voiceover window showing the same recording going into the red . . .



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Posted on Aug 24, 2023 4:20 AM

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Posted on Aug 24, 2023 12:30 PM

In the Record Voiceover pane, switch the input source to one of the mono channels from your external box and test:


since it looks like you are using a mono microphone. There maybe stereo phase cancellation.


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Aug 24, 2023 9:55 AM in response to Ian R. Brown

"Red" is a bit subjective. I'd go by dB's instead. Different companies have different ideas of what "red" actually indicates or means.


There was a problem with some Blue Snowball mics a while back I remember. It was some issue with their firmware and FCP. We'd always have to bring our own Sennheisers to clients instead of the mics they used, just in case.


What mic are you using specifically?

Does it require phantom power?

Have you tried changing Mic Input levels in System Settings? What are the levels like there when testing?


Aug 25, 2023 7:29 AM in response to Ian R. Brown

This is interesting.


In my testing I see the same thing; I can type in any value but it reverts to some other number as maximum.


The input gain slider in FCP is directly linked (and will actually adjust) the "Input Volume" slider in System Settings > Sound > Input, and vice-versa. So Input Gain in FCP's Voiceover window is the same setting as System Setting's Sound > Input Volume.


Interestingly, System Settings > Sound > Input Volume will remember different values for different mics.


I also noticed that different mics I tested have different max values for input gain. My main VO mic's max gain is 21. Unfortunately, none of my pro mics have any "volume" adjustment so I can't test that.


It's as if FCP or macOS is reading some spec from the mics themselves and knows that mic's max dB input value or reading it's output impedance or something.


Record voiceovers in Final Cut Pro for Mac - Apple Support


There there's an interesting line in the manual: "Note: If the Input Gain slider is dimmed for a selected input device, try adjusting the gain on the device itself or its software utility (if available)."


So, I'm not sure. Like you mentioned, FCP input (gain) is much cleaner than what I saw in Resolve and it's more in line with field recording and dual system sound I've recorded on sets. Perhaps it's the opposite and iMovie and Resolve record Voiceovers too loudly (and possibly more noisy).


None of my mics dim the input gain slider in FCP. Changing from Stereo to Mono doesn't affect the max Input Gain value.

Aug 25, 2023 1:13 AM in response to W. Raider

That is something I never imagined possible!


Yes, I appear to be able to type in a higher figure but the moment I start using the Voiceover window the number reverts to the default.


The number is not consistent and depends on the mic being used. The V8 setup as mentioned is 16dB, whilst the built in iMac mic is 12dB, another cheap unbranded sound card and mic is 33dB, an iMic is 31dB and my Logitech webcam mic is 30dB . . . all very strange.

Aug 24, 2023 12:11 PM in response to W. Raider

The Resolve audio was peaking around -5dB whereas the FCP was -20dB.


Snowballs, Sennheisers? Nothing like that . . . a Chinese Cardioid mini-shotgun mic retailing at £11.50 going into an equally expensive £12.95 V8 sound card . . . so much for the last of the big spenders.




I have got several other mics and sound cards but they are not as expensive!


It doesn't really matter what I use as the resulting volume differentials are the same.


Levels in System Settings are at maximum.


Although the FCP levels are considerably lower, they can be boosted without any background hum becoming audible, so I suppose the end result is very much the same and it's not so much a problem as a puzzle.

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