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This thread is a continuation of Issue with Proximity Sensor during calls - Continued. which was getting too long and causing some browsers to time out. That thread has been locked and the last post links to this thread.
See also the initial thread Issue with Proximity Sensor during calls

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  • Bobby1983 Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
    Oh my word, continuation again. Apple are you getting the message? Many users are still suffering from this issue and are waiting for a fix.

    Please ignore people like M Empire, PBerk, Mbasoonc2003 and other idots flooding this forum.

    Some people are not worried about their own ego's here, they are just loyal apple customer who deserve some answers.

    Thank you
  • mbassoc2003 Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
    germanylostthewar wrote...
    Your presence here has made posting on this forum practically unbearable. This is one of the reasons I don't post here. You and Himoura would make a nice couple. I have said what I have said regarding the proximity sensor issue and that's that. I am not an engineer, I am making assumptions based on what I do know. I find you guys and your attempts to discredit me rather amusing. If I have no credibility than please continue to mock one another and argue amongst yourselves.
    And if I am simply taking pics that have been posted on the internet then please show me one example? What pics did I steal off the internet and use for my own evil agenda on this forum?


    I resent that. Himoura's my wife. How dare you post disparaging comments about her. You're right. You're not an engineer. You are deducing things based on supposition just like everyone else. Either that ot you are confessing to breaching your confidentality agreement with Apple as a beta tester. You don't have the succinct clarity of someone who writes for the press, so if you are in the media, I'd assume it's something flowery. Either way, you said it yourself. You're not an engineer and you're only posting what you've deduced from the information you've gathered. Welcome to the forum That's what we're all doing here.
  • Trinity Level 4 Level 4 (2,855 points)
    they are not getting any message, the phone is selling like doughnuts
  • mbassoc2003 Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
    Trinity wrote:
    they are not getting any message, the phone is selling like doughnuts

    Yep.
    You can always buy back in when they get it fixed.
  • dbk9999 Level 1 Level 1 (55 points)
    I believe you have repeating what testers have revealed when those reports supported your view.

    I do not recall you making an issue of them breaking confidentiality agreements. So no need to make that an issue with a poster you disagree with.

    How about letting the thread have a lower percentage of attacks? Like none?
  • Goflying Level 1 Level 1 (10 points)
    Trinity wrote:
    the phone is selling like doughnuts


    and apple is buying them back in all-time-record quantities
  • zak75 Level 1 Level 1 (10 points)
    To everyone on this forum who is denying the PS problem and keep asking for a proof: The fact that the screen lights up (with or without buttons being activated) during a call with the speaker against the ear is enough proof of a sensor malfunction since one of the many functions of the PS is to shut down the screen light to save battery life during a call. So enough with the nonsense posts already.
  • mbassoc2003 Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
    I wish that were so. Then they would probably be taking prompter action. But the return rate three weeks in was substantially lower than most handsets at launch and only a quarter that of the 3GS. I suspect the return rate has remained incredibly low and the figures are further slewed down the way by the worldwide distribution that is now in the tens of millions.

    At 5% return rate on a product I understand that becomes a 'significant event' that becomes declarable to shareholders, so we know they haven't reached that milestone yet.
  • Goflying Level 1 Level 1 (10 points)
    mbassoc2003 wrote:
    I wish that were so. Then they would probably be taking prompter action. But the return rate three weeks in was substantially lower than most handsets at launch and only a quarter that of the 3GS. I suspect the return rate has remained incredibly low and the figures are further slewed down the way by the worldwide distribution that is now in the tens of millions.

    At 5% return rate on a product I understand that becomes a 'significant event' that becomes declarable to shareholders, so we know they haven't reached that milestone yet.


    a disclosable event is not triggered by a specific stock return level unless apple has entered into covenants re same. Suggest you take a look at sec rules for more info
  • rbrylawski Level 6 Level 6 (11,820 points)
    Goflying wrote:
    mbassoc2003 wrote:
    I wish that were so. Then they would probably be taking prompter action. But the return rate three weeks in was substantially lower than most handsets at launch and only a quarter that of the 3GS. I suspect the return rate has remained incredibly low and the figures are further slewed down the way by the worldwide distribution that is now in the tens of millions.

    At 5% return rate on a product I understand that becomes a 'significant event' that becomes declarable to shareholders, so we know they haven't reached that milestone yet.


    a disclosable event is not triggered by a specific stock return level unless apple has entered into covenants re same. Suggest you take a look at sec rules for more info

    Still, unless you have insider knowledge, you don't know Apple's buying them back at record numbers. You may be guessing, but you likely don't have proof....
  • mbassoc2003 Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
    zak75 wrote:
    To everyone on this forum who is denying the PS problem and keep asking for a proof: The fact that the screen lights up (with or without buttons being activated) during a call with the speaker against the ear is enough proof of a sensor malfunction since one of the many functions of the PS is to shut down the screen light to save battery life during a call. So enough with the nonsense posts already.


    Mine lights up my cheek during calls, but try as I might I cannot recreate the fault. It might light up my cheek but unless I sneak my finger in there, I can't get the phone to mute, dial or hang up on people. Seems like a lot of people have lit up faces butn cannot demonstrate the phone being 'faulty'.



    Aside - Just noticed a little security gap with the site and the fact that Apple link it to your Apple I'D. If I lose my phone, Mr Phone Finder could go to forum, hit 'forgot password' and the recovery is sent to my e-mail address (ie the Apple Mail Client). So if you find an iPhone, it's always worth going to the mail client, getting their e-mail address, feeding it into the Support Login, doing a password recovery, and if they've ever logged on to Support before, hey presto, full access to their iTunes account, home address, phone numbers etc.
  • mbassoc2003 Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
    @Goflying - Was that not an issue that a shareholder raised when Apple disclosed the 6% figure for the iP3GS? I seem to recall the fact that it had not been disclosed to shareholders at the time being raised a few weeks back. I'm no shareholder so I don't know what is and isn't disclosable for sure though. It is conjecture.
  • Goflying Level 1 Level 1 (10 points)
    rbrylawski wrote:
    Goflying wrote:
    mbassoc2003 wrote:
    I wish that were so. Then they would probably be taking prompter action. But the return rate three weeks in was substantially lower than most handsets at launch and only a quarter that of the 3GS. I suspect the return rate has remained incredibly low and the figures are further slewed down the way by the worldwide distribution that is now in the tens of millions.

    At 5% return rate on a product I understand that becomes a 'significant event' that becomes declarable to shareholders, so we know they haven't reached that milestone yet.


    a disclosable event is not triggered by a specific stock return level unless apple has entered into covenants re same. Suggest you take a look at sec rules for more info

    Still, unless you have insider knowledge, you don't know Apple's buying them back at record numbers. You may be guessing, but you likely don't have proof....


    agree. I don't have any proof whatsoever, just a strong gut feeling that all is very much not as rosy in cupertino as it might seem.

    For a company whose culture is steeped in phreakery, apple is showing an amazing inability to exert control.

    too many screw ups, too many loose ends, too many whacky hires, too many media backlashes - maybe the senior staff went into dumb-mode while steve was away for so long

    null
  • zak75 Level 1 Level 1 (10 points)
    @mbassoc2003: You did not get what I wrote. The fact that your phone lights up during a call against your ear (even if you don't activate any buttons), is a "fault", "defect", "malfunction" by itself or whatever you wanna call it since one of the jobs of the PS is to turn the screen off during a call to save on battery. the other job of the PS is to deactivate the touch screen to prevent function activation.
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