Photos doesn't remember to keep sort by title. Macbook also doesn't remember to view in column.

16" 1M 2021 Macbook Pro with OS 12.6.6 and Photos 7.0: Photos doesn't remember to sort by title. Even though I have to select that for every album, I'll go to an album and look for something that seems missing, until I realize that it's not being sorted by title and I have to recheck that again. There's nothing in preferences to select sort by title as a default. Previous versions of Photos/iPhoto never had this problem.


Maybe this is related? When I double click on a flash card, (mostly flash cards), the icons are shown "as Icons" even though I always select "as Columns." My Macbook won't keep "as Columns" as my default.


Thanks for any help anyone might offer!

MacBook Pro (2021)

Posted on Sep 8, 2023 1:21 PM

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Sep 9, 2023 4:53 PM in response to Edward A.

Since this has come up before, I want to check-- do your pictures actually have titles? In Photos, titles are different from file names:

Photos doesn't sort by file name. For it to sort by title you must insert a title in the title field.


In the absence of titles, Photos will show file names under thumbnails, but they are sort of grayed out to indicate that they are a substitute for the title. When you sort by title when there are no titles, the pictures will probably sort by date and time, but that is not guaranteed-- it may do something different.

Sep 10, 2023 12:53 AM in response to Edward A.

Photos stopped using the filename when sorting by title with the upgrade to macOS 10.15 Catalina. Photos 4 on macOS 10.14 Mojave has been the last version to use the filename as a default title when sorting by the title. This is one reason why I am keeping my older Macs on Mojave. for my needs has been the best version of Photos so far.

When you display your photos with the titles shown below the thumbnails, you will be seeing the filenames as a default title, if the photo has no title (view > Metadata> Tile). These default titles are shown dimmed. Only regular titles are shown with the full brightness and are used when sorting by the title.



Sep 10, 2023 1:00 AM in response to Edward A.

To keep "View as Columns" I am always setting the checkmark "Always open in column view" for each new folder in the view options for the folder. To open the View options use the keyboard shortcut ⌘J . The default is specific for each folder, not a general default for all folders.


Sometimes the view options are reverting to the default "Symbols" after a system upgrade, then I have to apply them again, when a folder is opening in the wrong mode.

Sep 9, 2023 3:26 PM in response to ASTRO24

Thank you for responding. There isn't a filter used when I copy a flash card to a new album. Simply the images/files might not appear in successive order. I do a lot of bracketed photography and instead of searching the album for a missing image in a series, (in the album), I've been going to View>Sort>Keep sorted by title, then they fall into chronological order. Even though I do that, sometimes, when I go back to an album, they might not be necessarily be listed the same way I left them. I read that article and I tried right clicking on the album and it looks like the default is sort by oldest first, as that was what was checked, (because I didn't check it). I went through all the albums and made sure they were all "keep sorted by title," and I'll see if that sticks. I guess I'll have to do the same every time I copy a flash card to an album. Even if the default was sort by oldest first, that doesn't explain why in a series of 5 or 7 bracketed images, one of them might be somewhere else in the album by default.

Sep 9, 2023 2:53 PM in response to Edward A.

Hi Edward A.,


Thanks for posting in Apple Support Communities.


It sounds like you are enabling a filter when you open Photos. This will need to be selected again if you close and relaunch Photos.


Photos is organized into Library, Memories, People, Places, and Recents. The Library tab makes it easy to find and share your photos and videos by Years, Months, and Days. 

Organize and find your photos on your Mac - Apple Support



Regards.


Sep 9, 2023 6:58 PM in response to Richard.Taylor

Thank you Richard for your help. I've been using iPhoto/Photos for decades and never had this problem before. It's Photos version 7 on a 2021 M1 Macbook Pro OS 12.6.6. I've always treated file names as titles. The last project I uploaded had over 3,000 images and there's no way I'll title, probably, any of them. When a successive bracketed group of 7, let's say, images are taken, when they're imported into a new album, those 7 images might not appear together. However, when I change to sort by title, then, always, they move to the correct order. I don't understand how, if the default is, sort by oldest first, that explains how one of the consecutive images can end up many places away, as it was taken within fractions of seconds from the images encompassing it.

Sep 9, 2023 6:57 PM in response to Edward A.

I also noticed on this macbook, that when I click on some icon with contents I want to see, sometimes the "view" is "icons" instead of "columns," which I always choose. It doesn't happen a lot, but occasionally. I'll report back to this thread next time it happens, because I've forgotten, but it was viewing something I had already chosen "columns" for, but the view switched back to "icons." Maybe just a bug.

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