Issues with MacOS 14 Sonoma login page

I upgraded my MacBook Air M2 to Sonoma today for testing, before upgrading my important computer. My wife, who is visually impaired, will hate the new login screen with the tiny avatar pics at the bottom that she won't be able to find. Before with Ventura and previous, she could click on her big avatar pic in the middle of the screen and get going. The new layout will frustrate her. I'm not happy with it either.


Also, I went to "Lock Screen" to make sure that "Show Sleep, Restart, Shut Down buttons" is on. It is. When I logout, they do not appear anywhere on the lock screen. This is a bug!!!


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MacBook Air, macOS 14.0

Posted on Sep 26, 2023 5:13 PM

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Oct 5, 2023 4:10 PM in response to beerguzzle

As far as I can tell, the password entry field hasn't changed size. The user name is a little bit smaller and in a different font, though I myself wouldn't describe it as significantly more difficult to read. But of course the user picture is significantly smaller. Probably the idea is to give pride of place to the cool new screen savers. Some suggestions:


  • The smaller user pictures may be more difficult to tell apart in their details, but they don't seem so small as to prevent relying on easier-to-see differences. For example, one user picture could be more blue, another more red; one lighter, the other darker. I'm just spitballing here.
  • The built-in accessibility features of Sonoma can help at the login screen. For example, I've turned on the Zoom feature in Accessibility settings that allows me to use a scroll gesture with a modifier key to zoom. With that feature, I can press the Control key while scrolling to make the login picture as big as my entire screen if I want to.

Oct 8, 2023 4:07 AM in response to Roquentin

This is helpful info for sighted users with full motor control, but it requires both mouse/trackpad use and vision.


It seems it is not possible to TAB between icons any more.

F4 and F7 and F8 will not place keyboard focus on the user-picker nor on the Restart/Shutdown/Sleep icon.


This design decision is hard to fathom. And hiding a pale, but clickable, button icon between three other pale but non-clickable icons is… inexplicable.

Sep 28, 2023 9:02 AM in response to johnny m. maloney

If you wear glasses that correct to 20/20 or close, then you are a normal human. My wife has optic nerve damage due to a stroke, lower right quadrant of the field of view missing, a prism, and correctable to only about 20/80 in the best of times. Right now she is also in the middle of cataract surgery too, one eye done so far. So her vision issues are complicated. Big, bright, and stationary are helpful with her computer usage. Sonoma's login page ain't it.


Apple's accessibility UI has been a godsend for her over the years. Closeview/zoom abilities are a must. The ability to highlight text and have VoiceOver read it are a huge win for her. Of course none of this starts until she gets logged in, which Sonoma just made a lot harder.


I sent email to Joanna Stern, the tech boffin at the Wall Street Journal, about this topic. I hope that she chimes in about Apple's regression on the login page.

Oct 4, 2023 9:25 AM in response to beerguzzle

I'm not visually impaired but I do wear glasses for short sightedness, and I found it an issue to see the new login box and choosing the avatars for the different profiles. Your new UI is not an improvement. Wish I hadn't updated! Please address this in version release. Have you got any accessibility designers to QA this before releasing??

Oct 9, 2023 1:37 PM in response to beerguzzle

This feature was apparently added to not allow the text box to "get in the way" of the screen background aesthetics, but Apple should set an option under accessibility (or elsewhere) to allow users to have the login text box in the center. This is an unnecessary change which allows for no functional, usability or performance benefit.

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