I have a bug with language switcher since I updated my mac

Wow this new popup is SO annoying. Everything was cool in Ventura... I can't downgrade now, and let's say Apple decided to change this to make their UI more consistent and remove the centered popup... Okay, but at least make it work right! It has a very annoying delay, sometimes it doesn't switch to the proper language, and sometimes the popup appears as well. Where's the consistency?

Yay for https://github.com/Nikeev/LangSwitch, someone give this person the salary of one of your UI/UX designers because whoever decided the new language switcher was a good idea needs a career change.

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Я не навиджу цю обнову, саме через language switcher

Tom Gewecke wrote:

In a different place, talking about Fn/Globe

But that's a different place. The changes in the fn/Globe section clearly describe how the auto-fade (aka vertical) list has been replaced by a list of "letters or characters that represent each source" (aka horizontal).

The control-space and control-option-space description hasn't changed. But in Sonoma, the implementation of this feature now behaves as documented, whereas it didn't before.

This is just the same-old, same-old upgrade story:

"The operating system works great! I love it!"

"I just applied an upgrade to the operating system and now it works differently!"

So why change in the first place? If people apply an upgrade and everything is exactly the way it was before, wouldn't they feel cheated?

dykyi_vladk wrote:

i mean when i switch the language the basic language switcher does not work as shown below

https://discussions.apple.com/content/attachment/ef04f0b5-2e32-42c4-9d81-f5706808ef96

That's just the keyboard setting. It really has nothing whatsoever to do with language. It's just the layout of the keyboard. Most Mac users don't regularly change their keyboard. Those that do usually change it from the keyboard menu. I have looked for some kind of new keyboard switching option in Sonoma and I haven't found anything. So it would really be helpful if you could explain exactly what you are doing, how you are triggering whatever menus you are seeing, and how you would like it to be different.

dykyi_vladk wrote:

i want vertical yes

I think you may need to go back to Ventura to have the vertical list. The horizontal button seems to be a new "feature" in Sonoma. To let Apple know you prefer the list, you can use

http://www.apple.com/feedback

Tom Gewecke wrote:

@etresoft. Do you still get the vertical list of keyboards in Sonoma? I think the OP is only getting the horizontal buttons and wants the vertical list back

OK. I get it now. This is the input source, which is only tangentially related to language.

I never got any vertical list because I never use more than one keyboard.

As far as I can tell, "the language switcher bug" was actually that vertical list. When I look at Apple's documentation for this feature in Sonoma and Ventura, it doesn't mention any vertical list. Both of them say the same thing, "You can also press Control-Space bar to select the previous input source, or Control-Option-Space bar to select the next input source in the Input menu". Nothing about any vertical list.

So I think that vertical list in Ventura was the bug. Now, in Sonoma, it behaves as documented. Apple didn't like that vertical list and got rid of it altogether.

I can't use the fn/Globe key in my virtual machine (no way I'm installing Sonoma anytime soon!). But the ctrl-space combinations now work as documented.

etresoft wrote: When I look at Apple's documentation for this feature in Sonoma and Ventura, it doesn't mention any vertical list. Both of them say the same thing

In a different place, talking about Fn/Globe, you can see the change. Through Ventura, the vertical list with full names of the keyboards was standard:

" press the key to display a list of your input sources, "

In Sonoma, this is now:

"Press the key to switch to the next input source and show all your input sources close to where you’re typing (displayed as letters or characters that represent each source)"

Randall_2023 wrote:

I see a link that says Language Switcher is no longer supported. Is this what you are using?

https://www.macupdate.com/app/mac/31850/language-switcher

I think it's something new in Sonoma. I think the OP is referencing this: https://www.reddit.com/r/MacOSBeta/comments/142l7cx/macos_140_sonoma_language_switcher_bug/

But that was June and I think this has something to do with switching keyboard input methods.

Not to disappoint or discourage, but unfortunately this not-bug-but-a-feature is so slow and unobvious that I had to start using an application for keyboard layout switching with a combination of keys ("shortcut"). Would be amazing if this not-bug-but-a-feature worked faster for the people who speak and use several languages daily.

You can try my fork. It's on the GitHub platfrom / <my username> / LangSwitch.

Sorry I can't post links because of 🤡 rules.

You'd need to compile it in XCode and all as I don't have a dev account to sign a release, but I've added a few QoL improvements like a popup similar to the original language switcher and a keypress delay.

Best of all, it's instant. I use it daily because I write in both English & Spanish all the time.

How are you switching languages? Control Space or Globe/Fn?

Are you saying you want the old vertical menu with the full names instead of the new horizontal button with the abbreviations?

You'll need to explain what you mean by "the language switcher bug".

I see a link that says Language Switcher is no longer supported. Is this what you are using?

https://www.macupdate.com/app/mac/31850/language-switcher