What is chronod, is it a part of Sonoma?

I get this pop-up and would like to find out if it is some part of the latest OS-Sonoma.

MacBook Air (M1, 2020)

Posted on Oct 6, 2023 5:36 PM

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Posted on Jan 4, 2024 8:57 AM

Hi! Former Apple dev here. Here's a brief on `chronod`: It's a LaunchAgent, not a LaunchDaemon, which means it's a per-user agent in macOS. It's specifically designed to manage widget-related tasks and is user-session dependent. To troubleshoot, I used several `launchctl` commands in Terminal to inspect and manage the `chronod` service. For those facing similar issues, here are the steps:


1. Check if chronod is Running:

launchctl print gui/501/com.apple.chronod


Replace `501` with your user ID (can be found with `id -u`). This command checks if `chronod` is active in your user session.


2. Restart chronod if Necessary:

launchctl kickstart -kp gui/501/com.apple.chronod


3. Ensure Network Access:

Make sure `chronod` has the necessary network access, especially if you're using a firewall or network monitoring tools.


It seems `chronod` plays a crucial role in widget functionality on macOS. My issues, in particular, were related to the Tesla widget. While a restart would have likely solved any issues related to this, I wanted to dive a bit deeper to help the next guy understand more about `chronod`. Hope this helps anyone struggling with widget issues!


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Jan 3, 2024 7:36 AM in response to MrHoffman

No, Apple does not provide QA for millions of developers. Apple tests apps when they are submitted to certify them as eligible to be on their app store. If a company creates any kind of software and doesn't thoroughly QA their software then they are incompetent. If you consistently send buggy software to Apple they will stop accepting it for review and certification, they will not allow it on their app store and users will never be aware of it.

I'm saying this issue was missed by both Norton and Apple and it is my opinion that Norton will have to change their software to accommodate this issue whether it is Apple's bug or Norton's bug because Apple is the big dog and tends to say, "no, you fix it, you say it's our bug, we don't have bugs, your software needs to operate on our operating system not the other way around. My opinion is born of twenty years in high tech, including ten as a software quality engineer (QA) and much of that time testing mobile apps, submitting them to Apple, negotiating with Apple (there is no negotiating with Apple) and sending the app back to my team's developers to "fix".

Jan 3, 2024 7:50 PM in response to MrHoffman

I, we, have already done everything you suggested. What would be good is if you read the entire string so you would know that. It's getting a little bothersome dealing with people entering advice that has already been followed but they don't know that because they respond to the oldest comment in the string. We're now months past that.


Your suggestion for removing the software is well taken but do you mind if the rest of us get on with trying a less radical solution? It's antivirus software, not some fidget spinning, novelty app. Taking it out of my defense strategy is not acceptable, or at least not acceptable at this time.

Jan 3, 2024 9:29 PM in response to MusicGenreDeleted

MusicGenreDeleted wrote:

I, we, have already done everything you suggested. What would be good is if you read the entire string so you would know that. It's getting a little bothersome dealing with people entering advice that has already been followed but they don't know that because they respond to the oldest comment in the string. We're now months past that.

Your suggestion for removing the software is well taken but do you mind if the rest of us get on with trying a less radical solution? It's antivirus software, not some fidget spinning, novelty app. Taking it out of my defense strategy is not acceptable, or at least not acceptable at this time.


Using the built-in anti-malware* isn’t something I would consider radical.


Nor is contacting the vendor support for the add-on app reporting the false.


Particularly an add-on that’s been reporting this false positive for months, un-remediated.


Lately, the better sources for macOS malware have been cracked apps, and obviously-sketchy downloads. The biggest mess lately has been some persistent adware that the built-in anti-malware is blocking, but is not yet removing. (details)


As for add-on anti-malware: One of the better-known add-on anti-malware packages (Avast) was caught selling personally-identified web browsing and web purchasing data. (details) I’d be surprised if various other add-on security apps and add-on VPNs and such weren’t also collecting and reselling metadata. Here’s another false positive (details) where the built-in anti-malware prevented the add-on anti-malware from deleting part of macOS. F-Secure has had falses. (details) Here’s the Symantec (Norton) VP (2014) saying anti-malware is failing badly and getting worse. (details). Add-on anti-malware is itself a target, and more than a little has been hilariously poorly written, and Tavis and Google Project Zero has found some egregious implementations. (details)


Reading: Effective defenses against malware and ot… - Apple Community



TL;DR: This is a third-party app reporting this. For assistance or concerns with this, contact the third-party app support. Or remove the add-on anti-malware.



*XProtect, XProtect Remediator, the app store, Gatekeeper, the read-only boot system volume, etc. (details)


Feb 29, 2024 2:12 PM in response to eejaymm

By "previous posts", I can only assume you mean a link to Norton's site where you can download an uninstaller?


The only way anything from Norton could have been on your Mac is if you, or someone else with access to your Mac installed it. Then, didn't uninstall it correctly. This leaves orphaned stuff behind that still tries to do its thing, if it can.


But good thing you found a way to resolve the issue.

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