As of today, FCP.co is redirecting directly to idustrialrevolution.com. Articles and forums on fcp.co are no longer accessible (unless you go to archive.org for the articles.)
I don't know what to say other than I will miss it.
iMac 27″ 5K, macOS 10.14
Thanks Ben!
I was able to finally get to the page, but the site is still really "iffy".
Safari has the best bet of getting through the site. FF and Opera... not so much. Still quite a few 404's even in Safari.
Here's a screenshot of Safari (left) vs Firefox/Opera:
The Safari version has Shopify software added, the others do not. I guess Peter is still working on it.
Some of the (fcpx) tutorials and blog posts are available already, but only in Safari and not all pages/links are available... or... some links to those pages work and others won't... (like "Next").
Looks like Motion will be largely ignored... sadly.
Thanks Ben!
I was able to finally get to the page, but the site is still really "iffy".
Safari has the best bet of getting through the site. FF and Opera... not so much. Still quite a few 404's even in Safari.
Here's a screenshot of Safari (left) vs Firefox/Opera:
The Safari version has Shopify software added, the others do not. I guess Peter is still working on it.
Some of the (fcpx) tutorials and blog posts are available already, but only in Safari and not all pages/links are available... or... some links to those pages work and others won't... (like "Next").
Looks like Motion will be largely ignored... sadly.
Hi Bill
Are you having problems with webarchive.org?
Here's how I have been able to get to the info on fcp.co.
Enter search in web browser (I used Safari} for Web Archive or internet archive way back machine.
This should take you to opening page where you can enter the URL or site name to see if there are archived files. Warning: once you are on the webarchive.org website, search and opening the files is sloooow, so be patient.
Enter fcp.co into search field.
This will take you to a calendar page that shows you dates that the site was archived.
Click on one of the colored circles on the calendar and a pop-up screen will appear with dates for the files collected, click on one of them and wait. The site should load fcp.co for that date.
You can then navigate the web site. Everything is running off of servers for webarchive so be patient.
Way Back Machine and the archive does work and is a reminder that what's on the internet, stays on the internet sort of!
Let me know if this works for you.
Hope this Helps, Greg
The site's loading for me now.
Basically, it's a combination of: "...it is very hard to run a news site about a product when there isn't any news!" and, "...the old problem of the cost and effort of running a site compared to the return" apparently.
He says that for a majority of the site's life industrial revolution's "sales have underwritten the cost" of the FCP site. He mentions the blog section of the IR site will still have content added.
Yepp, Peter has pulled 'the kill switch' (his words) to the web's biggest independent board/forum about FCPX. Very sad. Especially the forum with very helpful souls will be missed. And, selfish as I am, the FREE plug-ins are puff!gone.
Conc. the blog-post: worked for me 'til 5:30GMT, now a 404…
Guess, we will read a more elaborated reply from Peter in the near future.-
<sigh>
Hi Folks
I too was surprised and sad to see fcp.co shut down. Lots of great info and the forums were great. Sent Peter a message thanking him for fcp.co for all these years.
I also want to extend thanks to all of the fcp.co contributors Thank You All.
When I go to the old URL for fcp.co, I get redirected to IdustrialRevolution site. There is a link to Peter's article that BenB posted.
I imagine that some folks are getting 404s from web browser cache, maybe??
I took a look at the WebArchive and most of fcp.co is there including FoxM's OSC tutorials and looks like most of the site was scraped so all still available that way. But alas, no dynamic forums. Static Way Back Machine archives.
I will certainly miss the conversations from around the world. Yes these forums do too, but having a dedicated site worked for me.
While I don't think that these forums work as well, I wouldn't mind if Apple would pick up the ball and consider hosting something along the lines of fcp.co. Perhaps a potential conversation here and @ the next Summit meeting?
Personally I think Apple benefits highly from sites like fcp.co so sponsoring such a site is good business.
While they are at it, why not for all the Pro Apps?
Looking forward to seeing familiar fcp.co names here…
Wish you all peace and happiness
Best Greg
Yes, it's sad to see it go.
Peter Wiggins explains why in this blog post:
https://idustrialrevolution.com/blogs/news/whatever-happened-to-fcp-co
I am guessing that the page may have been removed. I keep getting it on my mac, perhaps it's now just a cached copy.
I copied and pasted the address to my iPhone (universal clipboard is a magical thing!), and it too gets a 404 page not found...
Karsten! Good to see you back here! Sorry about the circumstances.
I had several (paid!) articles published on fcpco that have also evaporated. I don't know how good they were (I've learned a good bit more since I wrote them) but Peter kept them up for several years. Google being what it is, I'm going to miss the inbound links (from a more trafficked site) those articles provided me now that they're gone. I might be able to re-post them, but the benefits wouldn't even be close to the same. Because of Google, I was forced to remove all the links I had going to fcpco (it would have been nice to have a "heads up" in advance). [Dead links will land you in Google "jail".]
I guess I can't be surprised. The forum looked like it was suffering from neglect (the "word-wrap" issue which should have been a simple fix... that wasn't being fixed). I know several people were concerned Peter might not have been well because of it from a recent thread (COVID, Spherico disappearing, etc.) I'm glad he's apparently okay.
I hope his new "strategy" works well for him... but he may be losing a lot of "friends" in the process... at least a lot of people who would "hang around".
Me, personally, I make ALL my own templates... so I have no reason to visit idustrialrevolution (or any other "competitor"). FCPco was a kind of crossroads where different people could meet in neutral territory... if you know what I mean. It was a bit different than this forum! Somewhat unique.
Any site trying to fill the forum gap left by fcpco now would be years, and years behind...
fox_m wrote:
Karsten! Good to see you back here! Sorry about the circumstances.
I had several (paid!) articles published on fcpco that have also evaporated. I don't know how good they were …
…Any site trying to fill the forum gap left by fcpco now would be years, and years behind...
Hi Fox,
yepp, I had to decide, to post here, or being the Janitor at FCP.CO… typing is not my sports anymore.
EEEEKS!!! Your 4part article about OnScreenControls - a classics, poof, gone! As you know I'm a fan of OSCs. You lifted all the secrets of these nasty to program/easy to use gremlins.... <arghgh>
… just one of the many examples, which demo the absolute need of that site. The 3D objects based on fonts, the subtitles advice, the bug reports, the.... omg! All gone! No fun…
Thanks Ben, for the copy of the Peters blog… I missed to make screen-grab.
Greg,
Foremost it is great of you to thank Peter and it’s something that should have been first in all our comments. I’ll take this opportunity to thank Peter as well. I’m assuming he will or is reading this.
Peter’s site was a guide and a problem solving place for me when it was 3 in the morning. I also agree that it was a wonderful gathering from people of all editing backgrounds from around the world.
Greg, it was because of fcp.co that I came to the summit with my wife way back when. What a great experience.
As for apple taking over a similar role…great idea…I’m staying positive;)
Also, I can’t seem to access any of the blog links on the fwd site. It would be cool for others who need help to be able to access this as a resource.
All the best and have fun as usual at the summit!
Bill
For me fcp.co was golden. It was a community I referred to when I needed help as a newbie on FCPX. It was a place to keep track of updates. It was a place to try out free plugins. It was a place to eavsdrop on all the interesting chit chat with general editing. At some point the ads actually had some value. The forum part was extremely valuable. The articles were amazing and informative. And to top it all off some years back before COVID I actually won a ticket via fcp.co to the FCPX Summit and got a chance to go to Cupertino. We met, we mingled and it was an excuse for me to fly to California. I could easily say I grew up with fcp.co... and met most of the faces behind the names. what a great adventure and so sad to see it go...
What I'd like to see would be for someone to take over the site with PW as a senior advisor, continuing the old database in to the future... what do you all vote???
The link just worked for me. Very bummed to see fcp.co go. Maybe CommandPost Chris at Latenite could integrate something more forum-y into fcp.cafe instead of the Github Discussions.
The only link that comes close that's listed in the News section is:
https://idustrialrevolution.com/component/k2/item/20-the-new-website-is-live
And that also sends me to the 404 page.
If you could just recap what Peter said...
I noticed that it dropped out a few days ago and then returned.
It will be missed because it was possible to help people without being put in a straight-jacket.
Creative Cow used to be the go-to site but it seems very lethargic nowadays.
I miss it as well and if our votes counted I too would be in favor of someone taking over the site. ;) I think the hosting is the easy part, it's the spam fighting and moderation that are the time suck.
It appears FCP.co has shut down
