Full Disk Access does not stay ON for Norton after re-boot

Mac mini M1, Sonoma 14.1.1


Every time I turn the Mac mini on, I get a msg from Norton stating that "Setup is incomplete" and prompting me to give "Full Disk Access" to the "Norton System Extension", via System Preferences/Privacy and Security/Full Disk Access.


Sure enough, when I go there, it's not on for Norton. So I turn it ON and then Norton appears to be happy.


However, when I re-boot the Mac mini (typically the next morning since I turn it OFF every night), Full Disk Access is back to OFF for Norton.


What should I do to make it stick from session to session???


Thanks.

Mac mini, macOS 14.1

Posted on Nov 28, 2023 8:10 AM

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Nov 28, 2023 8:19 AM in response to skdjfhskfjshf

skdjfhskfjshf wrote:

Mac mini M1, Sonoma 14.1.1

Every time I turn the Mac mini on, I get a msg from Norton stating that "Setup is incomplete" and prompting me to give "Full Disk Access" to the "Norton System Extension", via System Preferences/Privacy and Security/Full Disk Access.

Sure enough, when I go there, it's not on for Norton. So I turn it ON and then Norton appears to be happy.

However, when I re-boot the Mac mini (typically the next morning since I turn it OFF every night), Full Disk Access is back to OFF for Norton.

What should I do to make it stick from session to session???

Thanks.


Your macOS is working for you— disallowing third party antivirus.


Third party AntiVirus is not recommended— it typically does nothing but add issues to the macOS and competes directly with Apple’s own built in security:


macOS - Security - Apple macOS - Security - Apple

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Dec 6, 2023 4:07 AM in response to BobTheFisherman

Maybe a more helpful comment (especially when so apparently pro-Apple) would be to ask "Why to people continue to use 3rd party security apps, when Apple's inbuilt software is soooo good?". The answer might be that those same people appreciate the additional functionality and ux of 3rd party software (eg password generator/manager) and find that Apple isn't strong in this area. Why can't I have both? Why can't Apple/Apple evangelists be open to learning from others? As the maxim says "When you're finished learning, you're finished".

Dec 6, 2023 5:14 AM in response to guido_97

guido_97 wrote:

The answer might be that those same people appreciate the additional functionality and ux of 3rd party software (eg password generator/manager) and find that Apple isn't strong in this area.

Have you tried Apple's iCloud Keychain? I was a heavy user of iCloud Keychain before. I also used Authy for two-factor authentication at a few non-Apple sites. But then, someone offhandedly mentioned that iCloud Keychain had this feature too. I had no idea. Apple's two-factor authentication app works much, much better.


When it comes to antivirus apps, Apple still has its head in the sand. Apple's logic is that the only way to get malware on a Mac is by downloading it on purpose and bypassing multiple levels of Apple security protection to install it. Why would people do that? To run pirate software apps and to watch copyrighted movies for free, of course! But Apple's built-in security doesn't protect against that kind of activity whereas 3rd party apps do. So, if you find yourself downloading pirate apps or trying to watch illegal movies, and are repeatedly getting infected with malware, then 3rd party antivirus might be useful.


But for a password manager, Apple is totally the way to go.

Dec 6, 2023 9:55 AM in response to skdjfhskfjshf

skdjfhskfjshf wrote:

Err... What does this have to do with my question???

Nothing at all. I was just responding to guido_97's reply. The last time I scolded someone for threadjacking, it turned out that they revived a dead thread. But the funny thing is the that the OP and helpers picked right up after a month, right back in the same rabbit hole they started.


I can't add anything for your problem. I can tell you that antivirus apps don't need Full Disk Access. The only significant locations in the macOS file system where malware could lurk can be accessed by any app, not including Mac App Store apps. So if the helpers in this forum do successfully convince you to uninstall Norton, don't try to replace it with anything from the Mac App Store. The technical restrictions in the Mac App Store prevent any antivirus app from working. No restrictions on selling them or taking your money though.

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