Mac 2018 21 ; how to connect to a firewire. 800 external drive

I sold my 27 Mac about 4/5 years ago but stored 6 external HDD. I need info from them, 4 are ok, they connected via USB ports


One is a 4 TB drive that connects with a 800 FireWire


The other is a 3 TB that connects with what I believe is a USB2 (it’s a sort of square end).


Can anyone please point me to any adapters that I could use, as I’ve been unable to find one.


The ports on the back of my Mac are, ethernet, thunderbolt 4/USB , 3 USB, ports on back of 21 inch Mac


Any suggestions, I would be most grateful.


My intention after removing information and photographs that have disappeared from iCloud over the years, is to erase them all, and probably sell them. I have purchased this Mac from eBay purely to do this, and I then hope to sell it again.


thank you for any help you maybe able to offer. Happy New Year


Carol Weaver



iMac 21.5″ 4K, macOS 13.6

Posted on Dec 30, 2023 9:09 AM

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Posted on Dec 30, 2023 9:52 AM

Maybe you have USB-A connectors here, and not FireWire? The last iMac models with FireWire were sold in 2007 or so; they’re pretty old, and that’s also before 4 TB HDDs were fairly common.


Here is a common USB-A connector:


Here are the shapes of the FireWire connectors, though FireWire 800 will have more pins than is shown.


If these really are FireWire, then USB sled will allow you to gain access to most hard disk drives, though that’ll require removing the HDDs from the enclosures and re-mounting them in the sleds.


Here is a chart of the common connectors:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USB#Connector_type_quick_reference


If these HDDs are USB-A as I might suspect, Apple sells an adapter for USB-C to USB-A here:

USB-C to USB Adapter - Apple


Somewhat unusually for USB-C to USB-A adapters, this particular adapter also provides enough power for SuperDrive and some other higher-power-requirements USB-A gear.


[Images from Wikipedia.]

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Dec 30, 2023 9:52 AM in response to carolweavee

Maybe you have USB-A connectors here, and not FireWire? The last iMac models with FireWire were sold in 2007 or so; they’re pretty old, and that’s also before 4 TB HDDs were fairly common.


Here is a common USB-A connector:


Here are the shapes of the FireWire connectors, though FireWire 800 will have more pins than is shown.


If these really are FireWire, then USB sled will allow you to gain access to most hard disk drives, though that’ll require removing the HDDs from the enclosures and re-mounting them in the sleds.


Here is a chart of the common connectors:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USB#Connector_type_quick_reference


If these HDDs are USB-A as I might suspect, Apple sells an adapter for USB-C to USB-A here:

USB-C to USB Adapter - Apple


Somewhat unusually for USB-C to USB-A adapters, this particular adapter also provides enough power for SuperDrive and some other higher-power-requirements USB-A gear.


[Images from Wikipedia.]

Dec 30, 2023 2:24 PM in response to carolweavee

As others have mentioned, removing the drives from their enclosures and putting them into a USB dock or a USB enclosure would seem the best temporary, cost-effective solution.


If you're looking for a longer-term low-cost solution, the 2012 Mac minis include a Firewire 800 port and USB2/3 ports.

I use a 2012 Mac mini i7 quad-core connected to my HDTV, using two daisy-chained Firewire 800 Time Machine backup drives. I've upgraded the mini internal drives multiple times, most recently with 1TB SSD's, but the ancient Firewire drives still are working reliably!

OtherWorldComputing (macsales.com) still has a few 2012 Mac minis for sale, beginning at less than $100, depending upon processor, memory, and drive configuration.

Dec 30, 2023 9:39 AM in response to carolweavee

carolweavee wrote:

One is a 4 TB drive that connects with a 800 FireWire

What is the make and model is this external drive..?


If it does not have an additional USB port..?

Then you would be better off finding someone with a Mac that has FireWire and transfer the data to a USB drive.

The other is a 3 TB that connects with what I believe is a USB2 (it’s a sort of square end).

Sounds like you need a USB-A to USB-B 3.0 cable for this external drive.

for example > https://www.amazon.com/Amazon-Basics-4-8Gbps-High-Speed-Gold-Plated/dp/B00NH144GK/ref=sr_1_4?

Dec 30, 2023 9:41 AM in response to carolweavee

Unfortunately, there is no way to convert a Firewire device to USB or Thunderbolt. I've looked many times, and even purchased a couple of cables/converters that were supposed to work. They didn't.


Firewire requires more power than USB can provide. Attempting to use any type of converter usually results in the Mac displaying a warning that the USB port you tried to use was shut down to prevent damage.


I hoped I could at least find a multi-port hub that could supply both USB and Firewire their required voltages so it could then act as a bridge for transferring data. No such hub seems to exist. Or I should say, I found a few, but they were discontinued quite a while ago and are no longer available as a new item.


Here's one of them. One USB and one FW400 port input each in the front. Four USB and one FW400 input in the back. Then choose either a FW400 port out to the computer, or USB.


This IOGEAR unit seems to be a similar device.


For either one, you'll also need a simple FW800 to FW400 converter.

Dec 30, 2023 11:06 AM in response to carolweavee

Both of those have USB 2.0 connections and should have come with a USB cable. That USB cable will plug into your newer iMac's Thunderbolt/USB 3 ports using a USB-C to USB-A adapter.


For some examples:

USB-C to USB Adapter - Apple

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B08Z768LCW/ref=sspa_dk_detail_1?

https://www.target.com/p/philips-usb-c-to-3-0-usb-a-female-adapter/-/A-79804275

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