time machine is worthless

I have been having problems with Time Machine backing up my M1 Macbook Pro to an external SSD ever since I upgraded to Sonoma months ago. Zero issue backing up prior to Sonoma. Never more than 20 minutes to complete an incremental backup. Now, for 3 months and counting, ridiculous backup times. I called Apple support on 1/11/24 and said "walk me through how to set up my external SSD as a new external drive, and I am willing to erase previous backups". Following their explicit instructions, I started a new backup and 4 hours later after showing an estimated backup time of 6 hours remaining, I got the message "waiting to complete 1st backup". I called Apple support again, asked for an escalation, received a Senior support rep who checked my backup settings and then proceeded to tell me to restart the backup again. At 3 hours and counting, the backup showed 2 hours remaining. After waiting for 2 more hours, I checked the Time Machine backup status again. Here is what I received " waiting to complete 1st backup". It never finished. The backup just completely failed. During the first backup problems that I encountered back in September, I ran backup logs - twice - based on explicit instructions from Apple technical support - supposedly at the request of the Engineering team at Apple. Never received a reply. Apple knows extremely well that there is a major Time Machine issue within Sonoma. There are only 2 possible explanations IMO: 1. Apple knows there is a problem and can't fix it, or 2. Apple Support is incompetent. Harsh words indeed, but Apple has earned it.

MacBook Pro (2021)

Posted on Jan 11, 2024 9:37 PM

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Posted on Jan 12, 2024 5:18 AM

Apple does not read this user-to-user technical support forum for feedback.


But you can send Apple feedback via:

Feedback - macOS - Apple


If enough users send feedback, it is more likely a decision maker will see it, and maybe take action.

Time Machine is a rather good, well thought out backup utility, especially for one that comes for free with the operating system (speaking as some with 50 years in the computer industry)


I would consider starting from scratch on a different external device until you get enough backup depth that the current backup device can be erased and retasked in another roll.


If you do not like Time Machine, the Carbon Copy Cloner and SuperDuper are 2 very well respected 3rd party backup utilities (both are paid apps,, but they are very good at what they do).


Or you can roll your own using the rsync command from the Terminal (and yes I have done this in past, so I’m not being flippant).


My backups consist of Time Machine, Carbon Copy Cloner, and SuperDuper, depending on which Mac I’m backing up (work, personal, basement server, family members, etc…)

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Jan 12, 2024 5:18 AM in response to rasmaxwell

Apple does not read this user-to-user technical support forum for feedback.


But you can send Apple feedback via:

Feedback - macOS - Apple


If enough users send feedback, it is more likely a decision maker will see it, and maybe take action.

Time Machine is a rather good, well thought out backup utility, especially for one that comes for free with the operating system (speaking as some with 50 years in the computer industry)


I would consider starting from scratch on a different external device until you get enough backup depth that the current backup device can be erased and retasked in another roll.


If you do not like Time Machine, the Carbon Copy Cloner and SuperDuper are 2 very well respected 3rd party backup utilities (both are paid apps,, but they are very good at what they do).


Or you can roll your own using the rsync command from the Terminal (and yes I have done this in past, so I’m not being flippant).


My backups consist of Time Machine, Carbon Copy Cloner, and SuperDuper, depending on which Mac I’m backing up (work, personal, basement server, family members, etc…)

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