De-Interlacing within Final Cut Pro (Correct Method/Project Settings)

Hello Everyone, Hope All is Well. I have previously put out this concern, but now I am more confused. I make Travel and Lifestyle Vlogs for YouTube. I previously was editing on Final Cut Express on my 2011 MacBook Pro. Due to certain issues, I had to get an M1 Max MacBook Pro in 2022, and I also have a full version of Final Cut Pro. I had previously used Free Trials of Final Cut Pro on my 2011 MacBook Pro.


I have a lot of older videos from 2014 onwards that need editing. The videos from 2014 - 2019 were shot in the format 1920 X 1080 60i. Within Final Cut Express, I would apply a de-interlace filter, and it seemed to do a good job. My interlaced footage was already saved on external hard drives, so I do not have to go through SD Cards for those.


For Final Cut Pro, I have the following options:


  1. I can select the clip in the Timeline, and select the deinterlace box (which apparently is only supposed to be used if I want to de-interlace one clip without any editing).
  2. Just add the clips to the Timeline, edit them, and FCP will automatically de-interlace them (provided I click on the correct settings for the project). I think this is the correct option for me.
  3. I could go through HandBrake, before editing in Final Cut Pro, which apparently will give better results. However, I want to keep this as easy as possible.


Which above option is the right way to go? To my understanding, since I want to upload to YouTube, within Project Settings, I would need to click 1080p for video, not 1080i. For the frame rate, I need to click 29.97p, not 30p. Since 60i becomes 30p after being de-interlaced, but since interlaced video relies on fractional frame rates, 29.97p is apparently the correct choice.


Is 1080p for video correct, as well as 29.97p for the frame rate within the project settings? When would 1080i be used?


I am also confused about doubling frame rates after de-interlacing. Going by an online support page, if I select Deinterlace for a clip, the frame rate would double to 59.94p (I believe).


This is all so confusing, and I am glad I only shoot in Progressive mode Now.


In summary, I need to know the best/easiest way to de-interlace footage to be edited within Final Cut Pro, the proper project settings, and whether I should be concerned about doubling frame rates.


I would really appreciate it.




Thank You.

MacBook Pro 16″, macOS 12.5

Posted on Jan 29, 2024 3:48 PM

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Jan 30, 2024 1:50 AM in response to pjanveja

I believe that your option 2 is the way to go.


Make sure that your project is created as progressive, and then just add the clips to it and let FCP handle the deinterlacing. NOTE: don't let the project be created with "automatic" settings, or it will pick up from the first clip that is added and probably end up interlaced.


That is what I'd do, but then I have not worked with interlaced material in years, so maybe someone who does use it can give another perspective.




Jan 30, 2024 1:58 AM in response to pjanveja

You don't need a specific frame rate for youtube - but it should be progressive, not interlaced.


What you should consider is which frame rate better matches your content. That "60i" will probably have a fractional frame rate, so 29.97 is probably the correct one (remember that the "60" is fields, so half it would be 30, but in reality it is probably 59.94 and therefore ...)


<rant>

And here we are in 2024 still dealing with a compromise that was due to the technological limitations of almost a century ago. Why won't interlaced video and fractional frame rates die already?!

</rant>

Jan 30, 2024 3:44 AM in response to BenB

BenB wrote:

Because that means millions of TV stations and broadcast facilities would need to change out TONS of equipment for billions of billions of dollars. Fact.

Ben I know you have a lot more knowledge of the broadcast world, and I have great respect for you, but I have difficulty with this argument.


I understand that you say is probably true for traditional over-the-air broadcast, but how relevant is it today?


I am not sure about the US, but in Europe all broadcast is now digital. Analog tv is dead.

So there was already the need to invest in a lot of new equipment in the last ten-twelve years or so. The bandwitdth requirements of DVB-T are far less than analog, and can perfectly well accomodate progressive broadcast.


Plus traditional broadcast "over the air" has in large part been replaced by cable or fiber.

My tv comes together with my internet, over fiber, not the air, and the channels I get in my tv box come as 720p.

Some of those are the same legacy channels that are still broadcast (digitally) as interlaced 576i, so I presume the legacy broadcaster already gives a progressive feed to the distributors (or do they reencode on the fly?). Cable channels I am sure are all digital and have no reason to cater to legacy equipment or formats.





Jan 30, 2024 4:11 AM in response to Luis Sequeira1

Thank You, Luis. It makes sense to still select the correct fps for the video, in order to avoid any issues. Err, I wanted to read the entire explanation! Quite interesting! Interlaced footage is so annoying. It does not look as clean as video shot in Progressive mode. Previously, older versions of iMovie/Final Cut Pro did not even support footage at 1920 x 1080 60p. For the majority of my cameras I have, which I do not use, there were only options to record interlaced footage. One of my cameras, a Sony Handycam, had a 1080p 60 fps option, but iMovie/Final Cut Express did not even support that. In 2020, I started shooting all videos on my iPhone. Due to that, I was not able to use Final Cut Express, and had to use free trials of Final Cut Pro. Of course, I can’t use the Express version anymore due to laptop issues, so I have to use FCP on the M1 Max.


Out of curiosity, what would happen if I chose 59.94 fps for the frame rate?


Within FC Express, I think I was told to set the project as an interlaced project, use the filter, and export. I am not sure if this was correct, but the videos look fine on YouTube. Initially, I was shooting vlogs on mini-DV tapes in 2010. I did not know about interlaced footage until 2012, and all my older footage from 2010 was uploaded without de-interlacing. The footage appears dark. Would de-interlacing have had fixed it, or is the appearance mostly due to the low quality of the camera?


iPhone video also has variable frame rates, which is an issue. So instead of allowing FCP to choose, I will just use 60p. I assume that since iPhone and FCP are Apple products, this will be okay. It should cover the different variable frame rates. Thanks.

Jan 30, 2024 4:14 AM in response to Luis Sequeira1

Such an interesting concept. It also is similar to the Days of NTSC and PAL. Historically, these did make a difference, but not so much, if any, Today. Monitor refresh rate is still an issue, though. Have You noticed that it can still be an issue to record a computer or TV monitor while it’s on, or even a different Light Source? Weird bars start to appear.

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