Time Machine: how to exclude some files from ONE backup, but not ANOTHER

I have two Time Machines in the list of set up disks. One that only backs up my internal Mac HD. And a second I'm intending to back up the internal HD as well as my 50TB external source drive with all my photos.


I know the option to "Exclude from Backup," allowing me to exclude drives and folders from backing up. However I only want to exclude files from 1 of 2 Time Machines.


Is this possible?


A work-around I haven't yet tried: eject the TM backing up just my internal. Change the setting to exclude nothing. Do to the full backup with the second, larger, TM.

But I'm not sure 1. if this will work and 2. what happens when they're both mounted again. If this were to work would both TM's maintain the settings I had, or change to whatever the exclude option is last set to?


I wasn't able to effectively Google this question without only getting results for "how to exclude files in TM," so thanks in advance for any help.


just note that I already posted this question but realized after it received no replied that I posted in the wrong community. Doesn't looking like I can delete it either?

Mac Studio, macOS 13.3

Posted on Mar 11, 2024 4:14 PM

Reply
Question marked as Top-ranking reply

Posted on Mar 12, 2024 6:55 AM

As mentioned, what you want is not within the scope of how Time Machine works.


Get a different backup utility, such as Carbon Copy Cloner (very well respected; but it is a paid app), or some other backup utility, or even roll your own using rsync or ditto (both are commands shipped with macOS).


You are already using multiple disks, so dedicated one to a different backup utility.


I use Time Machine, Carbon Copy Cloner and SuperDuper! Backup utilities. Time Machine and SuperDuper! to local attached external drives, and Carbon Copy Cloner over the network to my Synology NAS.


Of the 3, Carbon Copy Cloner is the most flexible in selecting what is copied, allowing multiple different tasks, scheduling, and its ability to work either locally or over the network (including securely across the Internet; I actually used to use CCC to backup my Mom’s iMac from 300 miles away to my Synology via an older Mac I used as a backup server).

Similar questions

9 replies
Question marked as Top-ranking reply

Mar 12, 2024 6:55 AM in response to LongIslandCity

As mentioned, what you want is not within the scope of how Time Machine works.


Get a different backup utility, such as Carbon Copy Cloner (very well respected; but it is a paid app), or some other backup utility, or even roll your own using rsync or ditto (both are commands shipped with macOS).


You are already using multiple disks, so dedicated one to a different backup utility.


I use Time Machine, Carbon Copy Cloner and SuperDuper! Backup utilities. Time Machine and SuperDuper! to local attached external drives, and Carbon Copy Cloner over the network to my Synology NAS.


Of the 3, Carbon Copy Cloner is the most flexible in selecting what is copied, allowing multiple different tasks, scheduling, and its ability to work either locally or over the network (including securely across the Internet; I actually used to use CCC to backup my Mom’s iMac from 300 miles away to my Synology via an older Mac I used as a backup server).

Mar 12, 2024 10:02 AM in response to LongIslandCity

You may want to look at rsnapshot

https://rsnapshot.org


It requires more work to setup, but it generates backups that have a similar layout to Time Machine.


It creates a new backup directory tree for each run, but if the file has not changed since the last run, it just creates a filesystem hardlink to the existing file. So you get the name in the directory, but no extra storage for an identical file.


If the file has changed between runs, it copies the file into the directory.


While rsnapshot can be use to backup remote systems, it can be used on local storage as well.


So each backup has the appearance of being a full backup, each directory tree only has new storage for changed files.


But, but, but you have to do a lot of setup work, and deal with your own scheduling, and work from the terminal. It is a lot of work.


On the other hand, you can tweak it as much as you want with respect to the files you backup.


I have not used rsnapshot in about 10 years. I used to use it to backup the development files on my Linux hosted development system, to my office Mac over the company network (hosted system was in Texas, I was in New England).

Mar 12, 2024 12:36 PM in response to BobHarris

BobHarris wrote:

Of the 3, Carbon Copy Cloner is the most flexible in selecting what is copied, allowing multiple different tasks, scheduling, and its ability to work either locally or over the network (including securely across the Internet; I actually used to use CCC to backup my Mom’s iMac from 300 miles away to my Synology via an older Mac I used as a backup server).


on Carbon Copy Cloner 


Mar 11, 2024 5:22 PM in response to Barney-15E

Thanks for your input.


As a workaround do you know if it would work to have one backup drive plugged in at a time, and just change the settings back and forth? For instance I would keep my full backup TM plugged in at all times for hourly backups. But once a week would hope to be able to eject it, change the TM exclude list setting exclude the massive source drive , then mount the second TM for just my internal HD to be backed up.

Mar 12, 2024 9:37 AM in response to BobHarris

Bob, thanks for chiming in.


I didn’t want to inundate with details but I’m actually already using Carbon Copy Cloner with a third massive backup.


I know Time Machine is seen as an amateur backup system compared to CCC but what I prefer about Time Machine is that it doesn’t just combine all files I’ve ever backed up into their respective folders. Instead it allows me to see exactly what was in any particular folder on any particular day. As far as I can tell, CCC will just combine all files together making it tougher to locate files I may want to restore. Does this align with what you know?


Another huge bummer regarding TM is that when it switched from HFS to APFS that users lost the ability to purge files from the backup, so I'm not nearly as set on using it as I was previously.


My hope was the following:

1x onsite TM backup of ALL

1x onsite TM backup of just my internal HD

1x onsite CCC backup of ALL

1x offsite HDD backup I refresh every few months

700K photos backed up to Amazon Photos and photo catalogues backed up to Dropbox


What I may do instead:

1x onsite TM backup of ALL

1x onsite CCC backup of ALL

1x offsite HDD backup I refresh every few months

All photos backed up to Amazon Photos and photo catalogues backed up to Dropbox


Thank you in advance for your valuable time.

This thread has been closed by the system or the community team. You may vote for any posts you find helpful, or search the Community for additional answers.

Time Machine: how to exclude some files from ONE backup, but not ANOTHER

Welcome to Apple Support Community
A forum where Apple customers help each other with their products. Get started with your Apple Account.