Multiple Issues With macOS 14.4, anyone else?

I'm running a MacStudio (2022) M1 Ultra, 128GB RAM, 4TB SSD. After updating to macOS 14.4, I've have noticed the following issues (submitted to Apple Support already):


User login is slow. The system boots normally, but after a user enters their password, the login starts, then pauses for ~30 seconds (it differs between 27 and 36 seconds). Then, the screen goes black, comes back on, and login proceeds normally and quickly.


Connected Thunderbolt displays with internal speakers lose sound. The Mac no longer sees them as a sound output device. A reboot usually fixes this. The displays tested are the LG 5K Mac Display and the Dell 6 K 32-inch display.


Sound output works, except for alert sounds. No alert or interface sounds are played through any speakers, not even the MacStudio internal, regardless of output device settings. Again, a reboot usually corrects.


SoftRAID devices sometimes ignore power settings and spin down the drives. The result is that SoftRAID reported a drive failure. Opening SoftRAID will show the RAID in a degraded state with one or more drives missing and showing they are unreadable. (The issue was also reported to OWC, but there was no response after a week.)


I haven't experienced the printer issue reported on AppleInsider yet. I'm curious if anyone else is seeing this many issues with 14.4, especially since they seem to be so inconsistent. A system reboot seems to correct most, but then something else seems to fail. I have submitted video and system logs to Apple Support via the Feedback app.

Mac Studio, macOS 14.4

Posted on Mar 17, 2024 1:08 AM

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Jun 23, 2024 11:35 AM in response to David Stempnakowski

Problems with drives in the OWC RAID spinning down and incredibly slow login, sometimes resulting in a kernel panic and another restart, crept back in again. Problems persisted even in Safe Boot. On a hunch, I disabled File Vault, and all the issues seem to have been resolved. Since this isn't a laptop and the computer is in a locked rack enclosure, I'm not overly concerned about having File Vault turned off.


It will be interesting to see what happens in macOS 15.

Apr 23, 2024 1:10 PM in response to David Stempnakowski

My first suggestion would be to get rid of TechTool. Just look at all of those Micromat processes it loads.


Years ago, I used this app. Then with one particular upgrade, it didn't take long for me to see it was then entirely useless. Worse than that, it practically takes over your Mac. I dumped the app and never purchased or used it again. And that was at least 10 years ago.


What makes it so bad? If you let it just use every tool it runs by default, it does things like this:


1) Nothing you delete ever goes away. When you empty the trash, TechTool instead moves everything that was in the trash to a hidden folder so you can easily get "deleted" items back. i.e., you never actually get your drive space back. Files just keep getting added to the pseudo trash.


2) TechTool makes snapshots of your drive every day. If I remember correctly, multiple times per day. This eats up not just megabytes, but gigabytes of the drive. And it will keep making snapshots until it fills the drive - if you let it. It's a useless and space hogging "feature" you don't need when you're already using Carbon Copy Cloner (which I see you have) and/or Time Machine. And besides, what good is a snapshot/backup that's on the same drive? If the drive dies, all of the so-called backups go with it.


I went through every feature of the last version I had, and there weren't any that couldn't be done using the OS' own functions, or with free and/or much less expensive third party tools that only run when you choose to use them.

Mar 17, 2024 6:27 AM in response to David Stempnakowski

If you are running the Mac Studio in an active directory network, there can be lag logging in as it handshakes the domain controller. This process brings up the green dot to make mobile accounts on Active Directory connect.


VPNs can cause lags, and so can mobile device management that schools and companies use to manage multiple computers across a network. If you see Profiles in System Settings, that's a sign of mobile device management.


Do not have any optimizers installed, as they will actually slow you down.

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Mar 18, 2024 10:48 AM in response to David Stempnakowski

I wonder if this all is related to single cause of new security checks in macOS Kernel for protected memory access that is causing Java (JVM) processes crashes?


See https://blogs.oracle.com/java/post/java-on-macos-14-4?source=:so:tw:or:awr:jav:::&SC=:so:tw:or:awr:jav:::&pcode=


and https://youtrack.jetbrains.com/issue/JBR-6802


Apple likely needs to roll this back and reintroduce it later when developers are on board with the changes.

Mar 18, 2024 10:53 AM in response to ArtemZin

What's frustrating is that everything is inconsistent. I can boot the Mac six times with no problems, but then the RAID has issues, which an immediate reboot corrects. The next boot, maybe alert audio isn't playing, but the sound plays through the internal speakers but not others. A reboot will fix this. The only issue that happens every single time, for every user account, is the login process being long.

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