How to fix iTunes compilation CD grouping issue on Windows 11

iTunes has had this problem (for over a decade at least) where it doesn't group multiple tracks from a compilation CD under one album even though it gets the album name right and the tracks are all under the same folder (on a Windows machine). Windows Media Player has always handled this grouping without a problem.

One workaround that I expected to work is to Ctrl select all tracks of the same album, then right click to select Get Info and then Check the "this is a compilation" box and ensure the album and album artist are the same. However, that's not working with iTunes 12.13.1.3 running on Windows 11 Pro with all recommended updates. Editing the album to add a trailing character or selecting an album artist using auto complete (as suggested in older posts on this topic) isn't working either.

The only thing that works is to individually edit each song to mark it as a compilation and then iTunes takes about 5 seconds to merge it. So for a ~20 track album that's at least 100 seconds and many-many clicks to make iTunes think its one album.

I'm posting this to see if someone has found a better workaround and/or hoping Apple engineers at least ensure that multi-select edit's work even if they can't find the time to fix this feature which has been broken for over a decade.


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Posted on Mar 26, 2024 10:43 AM

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Posted on Mar 28, 2024 3:56 PM

To ensure that compilation albums are kept together, there are three separate tags (or fields) that need to be correctly completed:

    1. album artist - (not the artist tag)
    2. compilation - (make sure to read the Special Note* in the compilation paragraph below)
    3. album - (the album's title)

and it's the compilation flag that can catch people out.


The album artist tag:

iTunes is fussy about compilation albums and it needs the album artist tag to be filled in (for every song on the album) with the text Various Artists in order to keep the album together.


Where it differs from at least one other music management programme that I know of is that it isn't fussy about this tag for single-artist albums. On a single-artist album, the album artist tag can be empty and iTunes does not complete that tag by default. Every time you add a compilation (various artists) album to your iTunes Library, you need to check that this tag is correct. It probably won't be until you change it.


The compilation tag:

In order to keep a compilation album together, the compilation tag must be set on for each song on the album. A common problem can be that some songs on the album are are marked (set), while others are not. That will cause the album to be split up.


To check this:

    • select all the songs on the album and use iTunes' top bar menu to choose Edit/Get Info (and answer "yes" to the question about editing multiple items)
    • this opens the Details tab; look for the compilation tag towards the bottom of the pane
    • there must be a tick in the box. Note that I specifically do not use the word "checkmark", with which you may be more familiar. See the screenshots below. In all four of the pictures, the view shows the Edit Items panel for two or more songs on an album:

and


If you see the dash mark, do not think of it as a "checkmark". It indicates that one or more of the selected songs does not have the tick mark in it. If you see this, the remedy is to click the box twice. The first time will leave the box empty and the second will add the tick to the box and therefore to every song. You will see a green "tick in a circle" icon to the right, as shown below:



Tap the OK button, which is lower down and not shown in the screenshot


Finally, here's the same view if none of the selected songs has the compilation flag ticked:


To add the tick for a compilation album, simply click on the box once and tap the OK button.


* Special Note: as far as iTunes is concerned, a Greatest Hits or Best of album by one artist is not a compilation album. Unfortunately, the Gracenote database that iTunes uses to complete these tags for CDs that you copy into your library may have the compilation flag turned on for this type of album. If it's on, you need to turn it off for all the songs on the album.



The Album tag:

To keep an album together, every track on the album must have the same title. This may seem obvious, but see the next section.


Trailing spaces (in any and all common tags):

The suggestion that you refer to about the trailing character is a real problem, which is why it has been mentioned. It's very easy to have a space after the text in a common tag (such as the album title), but very difficult to spot.


If you think this is the issue in any of the common tags, try the following:

    • select all the songs on the album
    • highlight the tag that you suspect may have a trailing space by selecting from the end of the text, back to the start. If the blue highlight extends beyond the last letter, there is a trailing space:

and


If you cannot spot the extra gap after the word Break in the two screenshots above, that just shows how difficult it is to spot. This tip is not full proof, it's possible to highlight the text but still not include that "space".


The remedy is to copy the text from one song and paste what you copied into every song on the album.


First of all, check the compilation flag. It's almost certain to be the cause of a split up compilation album. Then check the album artist tag.

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Mar 28, 2024 3:56 PM in response to RKapoor1973

To ensure that compilation albums are kept together, there are three separate tags (or fields) that need to be correctly completed:

    1. album artist - (not the artist tag)
    2. compilation - (make sure to read the Special Note* in the compilation paragraph below)
    3. album - (the album's title)

and it's the compilation flag that can catch people out.


The album artist tag:

iTunes is fussy about compilation albums and it needs the album artist tag to be filled in (for every song on the album) with the text Various Artists in order to keep the album together.


Where it differs from at least one other music management programme that I know of is that it isn't fussy about this tag for single-artist albums. On a single-artist album, the album artist tag can be empty and iTunes does not complete that tag by default. Every time you add a compilation (various artists) album to your iTunes Library, you need to check that this tag is correct. It probably won't be until you change it.


The compilation tag:

In order to keep a compilation album together, the compilation tag must be set on for each song on the album. A common problem can be that some songs on the album are are marked (set), while others are not. That will cause the album to be split up.


To check this:

    • select all the songs on the album and use iTunes' top bar menu to choose Edit/Get Info (and answer "yes" to the question about editing multiple items)
    • this opens the Details tab; look for the compilation tag towards the bottom of the pane
    • there must be a tick in the box. Note that I specifically do not use the word "checkmark", with which you may be more familiar. See the screenshots below. In all four of the pictures, the view shows the Edit Items panel for two or more songs on an album:

and


If you see the dash mark, do not think of it as a "checkmark". It indicates that one or more of the selected songs does not have the tick mark in it. If you see this, the remedy is to click the box twice. The first time will leave the box empty and the second will add the tick to the box and therefore to every song. You will see a green "tick in a circle" icon to the right, as shown below:



Tap the OK button, which is lower down and not shown in the screenshot


Finally, here's the same view if none of the selected songs has the compilation flag ticked:


To add the tick for a compilation album, simply click on the box once and tap the OK button.


* Special Note: as far as iTunes is concerned, a Greatest Hits or Best of album by one artist is not a compilation album. Unfortunately, the Gracenote database that iTunes uses to complete these tags for CDs that you copy into your library may have the compilation flag turned on for this type of album. If it's on, you need to turn it off for all the songs on the album.



The Album tag:

To keep an album together, every track on the album must have the same title. This may seem obvious, but see the next section.


Trailing spaces (in any and all common tags):

The suggestion that you refer to about the trailing character is a real problem, which is why it has been mentioned. It's very easy to have a space after the text in a common tag (such as the album title), but very difficult to spot.


If you think this is the issue in any of the common tags, try the following:

    • select all the songs on the album
    • highlight the tag that you suspect may have a trailing space by selecting from the end of the text, back to the start. If the blue highlight extends beyond the last letter, there is a trailing space:

and


If you cannot spot the extra gap after the word Break in the two screenshots above, that just shows how difficult it is to spot. This tip is not full proof, it's possible to highlight the text but still not include that "space".


The remedy is to copy the text from one song and paste what you copied into every song on the album.


First of all, check the compilation flag. It's almost certain to be the cause of a split up compilation album. Then check the album artist tag.

Apr 6, 2024 10:35 AM in response to RKapoor1973

Just to add some thoughts to this thread:


Edits not taking, see Repair security permissions for iTunes for Windows - Apple Community. AirPlay or multiple tags are a potential cause.


See Getting iTunes & Windows Media Player to play nicely - Apple Community for thoughts on sharing a common library/media folder between the two apps.


See CustomRenamer for a script that can rename files to your preferred layout and update iTunes at the same time so you don't have to manually repair broken links.


In the Songs view make sure that View > Column Browser > Group Compilations and View > Column Browser > Use Album Artists are both ticked. These options affect behaviour throughout the app, not just the column browser and should be enabled for best results.


See also Grouping tracks into albums and my reply to this thread I Tune Library - Apple Community if you have an album that refuses to coalesce under one album cover.


tt2

Mar 30, 2024 2:21 AM in response to RKapoor1973

RKapoor1973 wrote:

the multi select edit is just not saving for certain albums.

If the changes you make are not being saved, that suggests that the files for those songs are Read Only. That is the files in Windows Explorer, not in iTunes itself.


  • Right-click a song in iTunes and choose Show in Windows Explorer (assuming that Windows has not changed the procedure on Windows 11)
  • look at the Properties for the file. (On Windows 10, it's right-click the file and choose Properties from the context menu
  • if the file is set to Read Only, click the box to turn it off. Repeat for each affected song


If that doesn't work, check the folders in which the file is located. Usually, the Read Only box has a block in it, which should be okay. But if the box has a tick (checkmark), turn it off.


If that fails to resolve the issue, I suggest that you re-check the steps I provided in my last post.


... hoping Apple engineers at least ensure that multi-select edit's work even if they can't find the time to fix this feature which has been broken for over a decade.

I've been using iTunes for many years and I have frequently made use of the procedure I have offered here. I have not experienced (nor am I aware of anyone else having) this issue.


If you have a YouTube account, perhaps you could post your video there and provide a link to it here. If Apple won't allow a full link, simply substitute the .com with dot com and I can work that out. You can always delete the video once we've seen it.

Apr 3, 2024 11:53 PM in response to RKapoor1973

RKapoor1973 wrote:

Windows Media Player Legacy is also better at ripping (ex. lets you select individual tracks).

iTunes does offer the option to select which tracks are going to be imported into your library when ripping from CD. If it is not giving you the option to select which tracks to import, you probably need to change the iTunes setting back to When you insert a CD: Show CD. Look in Edit/Preferences/General>When you insert a CD: and change the drop down menu option to Show CD.



When you insert a CD now you will see a screen like the one shown below:



iTunes imports the ticked (checked) tracks. To prevent a track from being imported, untick (remove the checkmark). Then tap the Import CD button.


My understanding was that iTunes keeps all its metadata in the dedicated iTunes folder, so it's separate from the music files...

That's not the full story. While iTunes stores some metadata in its .itl file, it's only data that iTunes uses exclusively, such as Play Count, Last Played, start & stop option etc. Data about the song itself is kept in the song's file, not iTunes' one; this includes track title, artist, album title, genre as well as other data. I assume that this includes the compilation flag because the Import CD window has an option named Album is part of a compilation of songs by various artists, but it is often incorrectly marked.


I make a point of checking every compilation album that I rip from CD after I've imported to my library, to ensure that both the compilation flag and the album artist tag are correct (as detailed in my previous posts). They are often not.

I use Windows Media Player to make changes to individual file metadata.

But if that metadata is not stored in the song's file, it will not be seen by iTunes.


A golden rule is that once a song is listed in your iTunes Library be very careful about changing any information relating to it in Windows Explorer or Windows Media Player (WMP), because it may cause unexpected issues in iTunes.


I suggest that you try the following as a test:

    1. use iTunes to re-import a compilation cd that has previously caused you problems (you can modify the album title prior to importing, to keep it separate from the previous import)
    2. do not add the album to WMP
    3. do not change anything about the album in Windows Explorer
    4. then go through the steps I've outlined previously to see whether the album is correct or not:
      • select all the tracks on the album
      • check that the compilation flag is set on for every track. Note that a dash mark in the compilation box indicates that some tracks are not set as compilation
      • check that the album artist field (tag) has the text Various Artists (in plural) in every track


Does that sort out the issue?


By the way, when you change the when you insert a CD setting, tap on Import Settings... (next to that text) you can set iTunes to import from CD in MP3 at 320kbps. I acknowledge that iTunes cannot import from CD as flac format, but it also cannot add or play files that are already in flac format, so that particular aspect of your discussion is irrelevant.


There is no "bug" in iTunes concerning compilation albums. The issue is mainly caused by the music industry, which doesn't understand what a compilation album by various artists means. It's simply a quirk that we have to deal with and I've explained how to do that. It does work.

Apr 4, 2024 12:10 PM in response to the fiend

Since the conversation has become more interesting, I did some more troubleshooting on this today.


I. Regarding individual track import the option:


Switching to Show CD wasn’t what I needed, instead I had to check “Show: List view checkboxes” which was unchecked for me by default (see below). With that checked I got the option of selecting individual tracks to import which is nice. I have been using the custom 320kbps MP3 option for import via iTunes.


II. Regarding iTunes import vs. Windows Media Player Legacy (WMPL) import:


I tried to reimport one of the problematic discs - ‘80s Gold (renamed to ‘80s Diamond) using iTunes and WMPL.


iTunes on import correctly set the ‘Part of Compilation’ and ‘Part of Set’ media file level flags, and showed the tracks grouped under one album. iTunes however put all the files under “C:\Users\[UserName]\Music\iTunes\iTunesMedia\Music\Compilations” whereas I prefer to keep them under “C:\Users\[UserName]\Music” so I moved the folder there and the flags were preserved.


iTunes import showing flags set


Then I completely deleted the iTunes imported folder and imported the same disc using WMPL and the ‘Part of Compilation’ and ‘Part of Set’ flags were NOT set correctly.


WMPL import showing flags not set


III. Regarding the reliance on the file level compilation flags for grouping


After the WMPL import I restarted iTunes and pointed it to WMPL imported folder where the flags were not set, expecting it to split up the tracks, however I was surprised to see that iTunes continued to group the files under one album though the compilation/set flags were not set at the media level files.


iTunes pointing to WMPL imported folder with compilation flags not set


So, it seems that iTunes is storing the grouping metadata somewhere else. I confirmed that by checking that the compilation flags are not set for the other problematic album (2020 Grammy Nominees) even though iTunes is still showing it as grouped.


2020 Grammy Nominees showing as grouped without the media file level compilation flags being set


IV. More proof of iTunes caching custom metadata outside media folder


I was also surprised to see that inspite of completely deleting the iTunes/WMPL ripped folder and restarting those programs iTunes relied on some caching to recognize the CD in the drive as ‘80s Diamond (the temp name I used) as opposed to ‘80s Gold (the actual name). Ejecting and reinserting the CD didn’t clean the cache and iTunes continued to think it was ‘80s Diamond. To me that is further proof that iTunes is doing some metadata caching outside of the media files folder.

It's also possible that the album name being the same and album artist being set as 'Various Artists' (which it was in today's experiment for both the problematic albums, one re-ripped today) are helping iTunes with its grouping strategy without the compilation level flags. Would be nice if that happened consistently eliminating the need for the manual track by track merge.

Apr 5, 2024 1:59 AM in response to RKapoor1973

RKapoor1973 wrote:

iTunes on import correctly set the ‘Part of Compilation’ and ‘Part of Set’ media file level flags, and showed the tracks grouped under one album. iTunes however put all the files under “C:\Users\[UserName]\Music\iTunes\iTunesMedia\Music\Compilations” whereas I prefer to keep them under “C:\Users\[UserName]\Music” so I moved the folder there and the flags were preserved.

It's clear to me now that the root cause of your issue is that you're undermining iTunes' organisational structure. As previously stated, once you have added files to your iTunes Library be very, very careful about editing them in Windows Explorer or WMP or anything else. That specifically includes moving the files - don't move them.


If you move the files after you have added them to your iTunes Library, then iTunes will no longer know where the files are and will be unable to play the music. I suggest that you check now the album that you moved; does it still play or do you get an exclamation mark next to the song title of an unplayable song and a message telling you that the original file cannot be found?


Regarding the media level flags; I'm not convinced that the properties information that you're looking at in Windows Explorer is the same as the tags that iTunes is using. Study the screenshot below, which shows the same album in iTunes (on the left) and Windows Explorer (on the right):


Although it's not shown in the screenshot, I can assure you that the album is marked as part of a compilation (and note that it's in the Compilations folder in Windows Explorer, because iTunes put it there). But look at the Windows Explorer image; not one of the songs has Part of a compilation turned on and only some of the the Part of a set field are positively marked. And yet, the album behaves correctly in my iTunes Library. But there's more:

Compare the Part of a set field with the Disc No. field shown in iTunes. The Disc No. tag is made up of the disc number (x of) and the quantity of discs (of x). e.g. Disc No. 1 of 3. Where there's a number in the Part of a set field there is no quantity of discs shown in iTunes. However, look closely at the following screenshot:


As you will notice, if the number is on its own, it's the disc number, not the quantity of the discs, even though it's under the "quantity of discs column".


I don't know exactly what Explorer is showing, but I have to be frank, I don't think you should be concerning yourself with what is shown in Windows Explorer. iTunes is a music library management tool and despite your misgivings, it's actually a very good one (and I'll be sad to to see it's demise). Let iTunes do its job.


As a test, purely for this discussion, I added the No. of Discs number to all the tracks in the album shown above by highlighting all tracks and editing them as one step. What I expected was that in Windows Explorer the Part of a set field would then be populated with the disc number as we've seen in the last screenshot. But to my surprise, that's not what happened:



It has added the disc number but only on tracks that already had the number. I checked some other compilation discs and had equally puzzling results, including on one disc the number 0 (zero). Weird!


I think you may need to make a choice:

    • accept things the way they are and continue to be unhappy with iTunes (unnecessarily as there is no bug in iTunes that is causing this)
    • accept things the way they are and don't try editing in Windows Explorer as it serves no purpose except to satisfy you but upset iTunes
    • if WMP and iTunes are not getting along, decide which one you're going to sacrifice, either in terms of which one you use or which one fails to organise as you want

You may consider another method altogether, but I do suggest that whatever you do, don't modify files that iTunes is trying to manage for you.


Sometimes computer programmes just don't get along with each other.







Apr 4, 2024 2:50 PM in response to RKapoor1973

iTunes maintaining its own grouping cache and overwriting it when new library folders are added would also explain why for the 2020 Grammy Nominees album (which doesn't have the media file level compilation flags set) iTunes lost the grouping info when I readded the entire Music folder (including the album folder) to the iTunes library, but continued to remember it as a single album when I re-merged the tracks individually, even though the media file level compilation flag wasn't set. The below image shows "album is a compilation" flag set in iTunes (and yes I verified it is set for each song in the album) but not at the media file level.


Mar 28, 2024 4:21 PM in response to the fiend

By the way, here's another tip that you may find useful:


If you have a single-artist album, with guest artists on one or more tracks, the following tags have to be set as follows on each track:

    • artist - the tag should have the principal and the guest artist. Each song has to be looked at individually
    • album artist - the name of the principal artist only. This tag can be set one track at a time or preferably as a multiple selection of all tracks on the album
    • compilation - must be off (the box must be empty). This tag can also be set one track at a time or preferably as a multiple selection of all tracks on the album


Consider Nelly Furtado's album Loose, which has guest artists on some tracks. The screenshot below shows the details for a track featuring a guest artist. Note the artist, the album artist and the compilation tags in both screenshots:

Looking at one track on the album:



Now look at the same panel when all the songs on the album are selected:

      • notice that the artist tag has the greyed out word Mixed in it. This indicates that there is different text in some of the selection, which is correct since some tracks are only Nelly, while others include additional artists. Don't change this tag
      • the album artist tag has the name of the principal artist only (Nelly Furtado). This an important tag to get correct
      • the compilation tag is turned off (the box is empty)


Looking at every track on the album in one selection:




Apr 3, 2024 8:14 PM in response to the fiend

The point about Read only files is a good one and I already made the music files Writable as I use Windows Media Player to make changes to individual file metadata. My understanding was that iTunes keeps all its metadata in the dedicated iTunes folder, so it's separate from the music files which I keep under the Music folder on Windows (iTunes folder resides at the same level). I don't touch the iTunes folder at all (ex. changing Read/Write attribute) so I'd think there is a different explanation for iTunes not supporting multi select edit to group certain albums. As I said it is certain albums ex. 2020 Grammy Nominees (single CD), '80 Gold (2-disc set) but I can't see why these compilations are different than others that I have. What was even more annoying was that after I went through each track individually - marking it as a compilation, setting Various Artists, and setting Disc number in case of the 2 disc set, it saved all that information (i.e. combined the tracks) and then when I restarted iTunes and added the Music folder to the library again to pick up new folders, iTunes lost all the grouping edits to the 2020 Grammy Nominees album and I had to do those one more time! Now I don't add the Music folder, have to remember the newly added subfolders and just add those individually.

I would also say this is a recent bug.


Windows Media Player Legacy is a lot better at organizing media (hardly has a problem with split albums and if there is it lets you do drag and drop to reconcile which always works). Windows Media Player Legacy is also better at ripping (ex. lets you select individual tracks). However, Windows Media Player Legacy regressed recently and wouldn't play certain CD's (I believe ones where it couldn't identify metadata uniquely and I have a discussion on that ongoing in the Windows forum). That bug brought me back to iTunes for more tasks. I anyway use iTunes to get my playlists updated on my iPhone.


With both Windows Media Player Legacy and iTunes worsening and no good news on this front from Microsoft (Groove Music and its successor the default Media Player are just crap compared to the original Windows Media Player Legacy) I'm open to suggestions for a 3rd party media player which is good at creating/managing playlists, syncs playlists with iPhone, and can rip CD's (at the same quality as Windows Media Player Legacy - FLAC or 320 kbps/44.1 kHz MP3's).

Apr 5, 2024 4:35 PM in response to the fiend

Regarding the comments

i. "you're undermining iTunes' organisational structure"

I have only very recently started using iTunes for ripping. All my music content was WMPL ripped from my CD's or purchased online from non-iTunes stores - so was NEVER under the iTunes folder to start with. iTunes was just made aware of the content for playlist management (using iTunes supported mechanisms).


ii. "moving the files - don't move them"

The exclamation mark on moving songs is one of the simpler problems to fix in iTunes. Though iTunes doesn't auto-detect where the songs moved to (even though they are under the library folder it knows about), on pointing iTunes to the new location of the folder it fixes all the songs in that folder.


iii. "tags that iTunes is using"

iTunes does set the "Part of a compilation" and "Part of set" flags on rip (as my iTunes import picture showed) but it is not relying solely on those (as the other pictures I shared from my experiment showed). It's clear to me that iTunes has its own metadata cache where it remembers updates to compilation/set/CD name etc. info, separate from the media files.


iv. iTunes being a "very good music library management tool"

I have used iTunes since iPhone4 days when it was the primary interface to do backups. Post the decoupling of backups, my use of iTunes was limited to managing playlists on iPhone. I'd say it is a pretty decent tool except for a few issues which may be Windows specific -

a. It splits up albums under the same folder with the same album name, especially if it wasn't used for ripping those albums (Apple may be expecting certain flags to be used in specific ways and so does what it does, but WMPL handles this much better and in line with user expectations)

b. Takes ~5 seconds/track to merge a single track into an album (not sure if iTunes is reindexing everything or trying to recheck GraceNote or other db's?, but this step is super slow and the biggest reason to not like iTunes)

c. Not giving any error messages or reasons for failure on failed edits


Additionally, WMPL doesn't interop well with iTunes playlists (playlists with special characters like Bublé or Ed Sheeran's ÷ (album) are messed up and WMPL doesn't accept m3u8's just m3u's) but I believe that particular issue is WMPL's fault.


v. "there is no bug in iTunes"

Inspite of this lengthy discussion I am no wiser on what caused the multi-select edit failure for certain albums for which I created this post originally :( That one is a recent bug, it may be due to something that Windows changed underneath the covers but it's a bad bug for sure.


vi. "You may consider another method altogether"

Since Microsoft wants to kill WMPL and Apple wants to kill iTunes, I have switched to Apple Music + Apple Devices apps (which required me to install Apple TV app as well just to get Apple Devices to read my iPhone's music only library). From a cursory look the new apps appear to be new packaging with slightly different skin for the same old stuff, but I'll know in a few days if they are better or worse.



Apr 7, 2024 1:10 PM in response to turingtest2

A lot of the guidance so far has been to follow the happy path and not mingle iTunes/WMPL but I can assure readers that I have comingled the two successfully for more than a decade - always used Windows default Music folder for storing my ripped (almost all by WMPL) or downloaded (none from iTunes) music and used iTunes for playlist management/iPhone syncing. I have always set up my Windows Pro machines using a single user account with admin privileges. Haven't had problems other than the ones I mentioned and the recent bugs impacting both iTunes and WMPL.


tt2, thanks for the additional pointers, your https://samsoft.org.uk/iTunes in particular looks like a great resource for iTunes users. However, as I have now moved to Apple Music, I can't use iTunes for music management anymore.


So far, the one nice thing I have seen about Apple Music app is that even though it's finicky like iTunes regarding what it considers an album, it does instantaneous track merges like WMPL (unlike the ~5seconds iTunes took per track) so the most annoying iTunes issue seems fixed with Apple Music.

There is the inconvenience of using 4/5 separate apps (Apple Music for playlist management, Apple Devices for iPhone Syncing, Apple TV to get Apple Devices to work, and iTunes/WMPL for ripping as Apple Music doesn't seem to have ripping capabilities yet) but the guys at 1 "infinite" loop decided in their "infinite" wisdom that using 4 separate apps is better than one "monolithic" app so who am I to argue?

Mar 29, 2024 4:05 PM in response to the fiend

Thanks for the response but I have tried those already (and have been using those tricks for many years).

This time it's something different - the multi select edit is just not saving for certain albums.

I have checked that the problematic albums have the same Album name with no trailing blanks, set the Compilation flag, and set Album artist to Various Artist (via auto complete).

I made a quick Snip video of the problem, but this forum doesn't allow for user video uploads.

Apr 2, 2024 3:57 AM in response to RKapoor1973

I too, am having a similar problem, and NONE of the solutions offered above is working either.


And it's a relatively recent problem. Only after a recent OS update did this issue start occurring. Until then, editing a large number of tracks, and clicking the "Album is a compilation...." check box would easily consolidate them all in to one album.


Now, the only way to do it is individually.... (I would like to upload a video too... might do a Private YouTube video and embed it....)


Running Sonoma 14.4.1

Apr 3, 2024 11:58 PM in response to the fiend

the fiend wrote:
I make a point of checking every compilation album that I rip from CD after I've imported to my library, to ensure that both the compilation flag and the album artist tag are correct (as detailed in my previous posts).

I also check any "Greatest Hits" or "Best Of" albums by single-artists as these are the ones that the music industry wrongly marks as compilations. Yes, they are compilation of songs by one artist, but that's not how iTunes treats them.

Apr 6, 2024 4:35 AM in response to RKapoor1973

RKapoor1973 wrote:

I have only very recently started using iTunes for ripping. All my music content was WMPL ripped from my CD's or purchased online from non-iTunes stores - so was NEVER under the iTunes folder to start with.

And yet you originally only told us that...

iTunes has had this problem (for over a decade at least) where it doesn't group multiple tracks from a compilation CD under one album even though it gets the album name right and the tracks are all under the same folder (on a Windows machine). Windows Media Player has always handled this grouping without a problem.

Makes no difference whether you're speaking from your personal experience or hearsay, the fact is that if music was copied from CD into WMP and then added to iTunes, it is possible that there might be small issues.


For example, if I create and save a document in Open Office and subsequently use Save As to save it as a Microsoft Word document, I may see a warning that some formatting might not be saved in the revised format. It's just a fact of life that we have to deal with. Since the music industry isn't one coherent body, I doubt that the minor conflicts between WMP, WMPL, iTunes and other programmes such as Media Monkey, will ever be resolved. From my experience I know that if I add a music file created in iTunes to one of the well-known alternative music libraries, I do get the odd anomaly that I have to deal with. So these things can happen the other way as well.

The exclamation mark on moving songs is one of the simpler problems to fix in iTunes.

For you, perhaps, but you would be surprised how many people get very exercised about it when it happens and they don't find it easy to fix (and so they end up here).

Though iTunes doesn't auto-detect where the songs moved to (even though they are under the library folder it knows about)

No, you're right, it doesn't. Again, your example serves as a demonstration of the differences between one programme and another and as always when working with different programmes that essentially do the same thing, one has to learn those differences and accept them.

iTunes does set the "Part of a compilation" and "Part of set" flags on rip (as my iTunes import picture showed)

I'm confident to report that it doesn't happen that way in my iTunes Library, which again, is why I brought it up here.

Inspite of this lengthy discussion I am no wiser on what caused the multi-select edit failure for certain albums for which I created this post originally

Perhaps not but at least you now have the benefit of the pointers I have outlined here, which even if you don't regard them as a fix, it is a workaround - something you asked for.


I have switched to Apple Music + Apple Devices apps <...> I'll know in a few days if they are better or worse.

Indeed. It's all your choice. All I've tried to do is resolve the issue that you wrote about; compilation CDs not being correctly held together as one album.

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