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Using a web search I find several "answers" on this community of a consistently low standard, including some with links to a genuine Apple page that doesn't answer the question and one or two that state things that are not true. So I respond by downvoting all of this in the hope of swinging the needle however slightly towards people whose answers are accurate and useful. What I get isd a response that tells me "slow down, you are voting too fast". What's the real idea behind that.? What woudl it do if I had upvoted several answers within a few minutes. How can we stop this sort of mechanised distortion?


Now continuing the search for anything that explains the specific peculiar behaviour just started in Sonoma, but reported by several other puzzled users with earlier systems.

iMac 21.5″, macOS 10.14

Posted on Apr 12, 2024 8:01 AM

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Apr 12, 2024 9:34 AM in response to Greg@17

What @ IdrisSeabright posted in both replies are " Spot ON "


There are some specifics related to UpVoting or Downloading and Voting Limits where are kept vague and will have to remain that way


At least, until our Host officially publishes that information.


As for your reply to @ lkrupp,


There has been a recent infestation of these Forums by AI / ChatBots.


They may appear as well formulated  with what appears as possible technical solutions.


Suggest being very careful about this.


Some suggestions can be very incorrect or even impossible to do.


Should you come across these types of replies / posting , they too can be Reported to the Apple Moderators for consideration and appropriate remedial actions


Even a level 1 or level 2 has that ability and in essence responsibility




Apr 12, 2024 8:17 AM in response to Greg@17

Greg@17 wrote:

Using a web search I find several "answers" on this community of a consistently low standard, including some with links to a genuine Apple page that doesn't answer the question and one or two that state things that are not true. So I respond by downvoting all of this in the hope of swinging the needle however slightly towards people whose answers are accurate and useful. What I get isd a response that tells me "slow down, you are voting too fast". What's the real idea behind that.? What woudl it do if I had upvoted several answers within a few minutes. How can we stop this sort of mechanised distortion?

Now continuing the search for anything that explains the specific peculiar behaviour just started in Sonoma, but reported by several other puzzled users with earlier systems.

If you are a relatively new user to the forums, there will be a limit on how often you can vote in a day. I don't believe the Hosts have ever publicly stated what that limit is. What I can tell you is that it is put in place to discourange attempts to game the system. So, because there are people out there with less than noble intentions for voting, everyone pays the price. You would get the same message if you up-voted more posts than the limit. Eventually, as you develop a repuation of your own and increase in levels, the limit will be raised and, eventually, removed.


I would also add that, as I understand it, downvoting a post doesn't change how it is seen in the forums. Downvotes provide information to the Hosts but aren't seen by anyone else. You may note that the only downvotes you can see are your own.

Apr 12, 2024 8:32 AM in response to Greg@17

Greg@17 wrote:

Using a web search I find several "answers" on this community of a consistently low standard, including some with links to a genuine Apple page that doesn't answer the question and one or two that state things that are not true. So I respond by downvoting all of this in the hope of swinging the needle however slightly towards people whose answers are accurate and useful. What I get isd a response that tells me "slow down, you are voting too fast". What's the real idea behind that.? What woudl it do if I had upvoted several answers within a few minutes. How can we stop this sort of mechanised distortion?

Now continuing the search for anything that explains the specific peculiar behaviour just started in Sonoma, but reported by several other puzzled users with earlier systems.

It is good to see a user ( you ) is interested in keeping the ASC Forums clean and stocked with good information


That should be commended 😎


Exercise your Franchise to Up or Down vote as you see fit.


As my Colleague @IdrisSeabright has already done such a good explanation - do not have much more to add


Keep up the good work though 😀



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Apr 12, 2024 8:35 AM in response to IdrisSeabright

Thanks, IdrisSeabright. That's a good try and partially correct, though misleading enough to be a little irritating. What happened to me was not related to a daily limit because I was able to vote again after a pause - I don't know, but well under an hour. You may be surprised to hear that when Apple's machine said "too fast" it really seems to have meant what it said.

Just recently I tried to vote again and got a different message saying "You’ve reached your voting limit for now. You can vote again later." My guess is that this is to do with the limit you wrote about, though it is delightfully vague - maybe it's a daily limit, maybe hourly, maybe a 'leaky bucket'.


PS Any reader unfamiliar with the term 'leaky bucket' is recommended to go to Wikipedia and search for it there.

Apr 12, 2024 8:37 AM in response to Greg@17

Greg@17 wrote:

Now continuing the search for anything that explains the specific peculiar behaviour just started in Sonoma, but reported by several other puzzled users with earlier systems.

An additional note. This particular system is relatively new, a few months old. Prior to that, the Original Poster was the only person who could mark something as "Best Reply," and once they did, it couldn't be changed. Sometimes, people marked the wrong post as "Best Reply" or simply didn't understand the system when they marked something. Those "Best Reply" posts are still there, even though they show no upvotes.


I don't know if people upvote other posts enough in those older threads if will change the Best Reply. However, as most threads stop getting seen very much after a few days or weeks, I don't really know.


My suggestion, rather than down-voting posts marked "Best Reply" that you feel are wrong, is that you upvote the posts in the thread that you think make a positive contribution. I think that will change things the most.

Apr 12, 2024 8:51 AM in response to lkrupp

Sorry, lkrupp, I should have worded that more clearly. The information I found that I could see was false was within the replies themselves. The problem with the links to Apple support documents was that they looked potentially relevant, but were actually only tangential to the question asked. It's rather as though the responder had searched for relevant terms and linked a document without checking that it actually answered the question as posed.

Apr 12, 2024 9:59 AM in response to Greg@17

Greg@17 wrote:

Sorry, lkrupp, I should have worded that more clearly. The information I found that I could see was false was within the replies themselves. The problem with the links to Apple support documents was that they looked potentially relevant, but were actually only tangential to the question asked. It's rather as though the responder had searched for relevant terms and linked a document without checking that it actually answered the question as posed.

There are many Apple documents that relate to the question, but don’t truly answer it, and those are normally posted to provide all of the information any of us know about the question. Yes, sometimes they are completely irrelevant. Sometimes the original question gets hijacked into a new question to which sometimes those link documents are relevant, but they aren’t relevant to the original question.

To address your original question, posting here has always had a time limit associated with it. I seem to think one post every 30 seconds is the maximum you can do and that may apply to the votes. It also can be an entirely different time than I guessed.

Apple doesn’t monitor these posts for accuracy. Correcting inaccurate statements is up to us users when we see them. I only look at about one in twenty or less posts here because I have no idea about the problem.

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