What Mail programs are compatible with MacBook Pro and Yahoo Webmail?

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What Mail programs are compatible with MacBook Pro and Yahoo Webmail?

I recently purchased a new MacBook Pro (M3 Pro). Everything migrated well though I am having a problem with the Mail program as my service provider has changed something recently and it no longer authenticates on computers through this Mail program. It's still ok for the IPhone and iPad. I am forced to use Yahoo Webmail which is clunky and primitive for everyday use. Are there any other Mail programs that you can suggest other than Outlook 365 that will work with the MacBook Pro and with Yahoo Webmail?

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MacBook Pro 15″, macOS 13.6

Posted on May 25, 2024 8:45 PM

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Answer 1

May 27, 2024 7:13 AM in response to 72dpi

<< But apps like Mail on Apple's desktop computers need what is called an app-generated password, and Rogers stopped supporting that type of password back in 3-23." >>

This ties into an authentication system used for Mail called oAuth. It is now being used by ALL those 'special case' providers that require special setups listed in mail setup pane.

oAuth requires adequate support in the Mail program, and the service provider's enforcement of newer standards have exceeded really OLD mail from being able to keep up. The work around for 10.13 High Sierra Mail, for example, WAS the 'generate the password and re-enter it manually' that Rogers describes in that article as having supported for a while, and now discontinued.

But current (last three MacOS versions) of Apple Mail should be able to be set up with the built-in process, and NOT require the work around 'generate the password and re-enter it manually'.

Setup using the Yahoo button should even work in a few more back, like my recent Big Sur setup. Be sure to enter the ENTIRE account-name INCLUDING the Rogers part of it, at every turn (Then THEY can parse it and do whatever needs to be done.)

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May 27, 2024 10:29 AM in response to Grant Bennet-Alder

I am not able to access any of the port numbers anymore.

I was just on with Apple Support and they were able to get me up and running with Thunderbird as an alternative. It's working and a huge relief. I hope this helps others. Thanks to all for your replies.

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May 27, 2024 10:57 AM in response to Grant Bennet-Alder

Yes he understood and he checked through all the settings and looked it up as well. He was surprised too. I had a terrific person helping me.

I did some searching on the community boards and if you look up 'Rogers email' in the search field you will find more of us..... Rogers never told us they were doing this, so many users are going about their everyday business. The surprise comes when they either delete their account for some reason or get a new computer.

So far Thunderbird is doing everything I need, including saving emails, reading EML pages and using the address book. This is a big deal as Rogers webmail cannot do any of this. Relief!

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May 26, 2024 7:18 PM in response to 72dpi

if you use the separate setup for yahoo-and all its hosted providers, it should work fine.

I have mine working in Big Sur and Monterey. Be sure Safari is open when you start, as it will open a Safari-like sub window to complete the process.

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muguy

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May 25, 2024 8:52 PM in response to 72dpi

Just about any, including the built-in Mail. Check with your provider as you may need an device-specific password to access your email account.

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May 27, 2024 5:32 AM in response to Grant Bennet-Alder

Thank you Grant. This is how I normally would start through Yahoo which Rogers (service provider) supports, but it no longer working . Here's a cut and paste from the web:

"Whatever password and credentials you set up on the web site will work for the web-based email portal as well the Mail app on iPhones and iPads. But apps like Mail on Apple's desktop computers need what is called an app-generated password, and Rogers stopped supporting that type of password back in 3-23."

We can use Yahoo Webmail directly but it is extremely awkward and clunky. They also suggested Outlook 365 with similarly is not user friendly. I was hoping for other email program options without having to workaround through Gmail.

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May 27, 2024 5:44 AM in response to 72dpi

You might take this opportunity to consider FastMail.

They IMO are an outstanding email provider.

You can then interchangably use their web interface, iOS app, and any MacOS eMail client of your choosing.

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May 27, 2024 9:32 AM in response to 72dpi

there are Two servers.

The receiving server is IMAP or POP. (IMAP recommended)

The sending server is SMTP

The port numbers form the Apple wizard are 993 for IMAP and 465 for SMTP, and secure messages and password required. But once this is set up correctly stuff like port number does not appear to be accessible any longer.

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May 27, 2024 8:17 AM in response to 72dpi

have you confirmed the ports, and settings including server hostname agree with what is provided here:

Mail - Official Apple Support

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May 26, 2024 7:03 PM in response to muguy

I know the Apple Mail program works but not with my provider any longer. They have stopped authenticating passwords and are steering us to Webmail. They suggested trying Outlook 365 but I was hoping for other options.

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May 27, 2024 7:54 AM in response to Grant Bennet-Alder

Hi Grant,

Unfortunately not. I was using Ventura on my old MacBook and Mail still works there. On the new M3 Pro with Sonoma, it does not. The set up is automated and it fails to authenticate. The Rogers technician explained it will still work on the old computer and the IPad and IPhone but going forward it will not work on computers, now or ever.

Today I tried forwarding a Browser page by email and even though I'm using webmail, it wouldn't work.

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May 27, 2024 8:42 AM in response to Grant Bennet-Alder

I just tried this. The account type listed on Apple Support is SMTP and the only options I am getting in my Mail program now are IMAP or POP. Everything else is correct, incoming is imap and outgoing is smtp on both.

This isn't particular to me, it's all Rogers customers.

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Answer 13

May 27, 2024 10:42 AM in response to 72dpi

Did they agree that Mail can not support Rogers any more, or were they just going with the flow?

It seems like all of Canada would be on here complaining if everyone had the same experience you did. (Maybe that's what's up for next week.)

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May 27, 2024 7:19 PM in response to 72dpi

That's interesting.

On mine, the providers that have old-fashioned setups (In my case, EarthLink) can set the port numbers if you uncheck manage automatically.

but the ones that have complex setups:

icloud

yahoo

google

AOL

(Exchange is a world unto itself.)

do Not have any port numbers to change. you either get them set up, or you don't . No fiddling with port numbers. I don't suppose I will really miss that.

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May 27, 2024 5:45 AM in response to Chattanoogan

Thank you Chattanoogan, I'll look into it.

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