Macbook Pro M1 Max charge with USB C?

This maybe a stupidly simple question, but I just wanted clarification before any damage to my M1 Max Macbook Pro.


Can I charge my Macbook Pro from a wall plug (UK) with built in USB A socket to the USB C input on my Macbook?


I only ask as I don't want to damage it with the wrong power! and have only ever used the included UK Apple plug and thin adaptor that Apple supplies.


I use my Macbook in 2 different locations, and using a built in wall USB socket (A) to a USB C on the Macbook would be really handy so as to not keep using the Apple Power brick that is connected deep into a studio setting.


I've heard that the M1 series Silicon, can charge from the Apple adaptor or a USB C socket but never tried.


Is it enough power to use a single USB A > USB C cable to use with a Macbook Pro M1 safely?

MacBook Pro 16″, macOS 14.4

Posted on Aug 5, 2024 1:08 AM

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Posted on Aug 5, 2024 8:51 AM

the chunky block that plugs into the wall, that Apple sells to run your Mac is called a Power Adapter for good reason. The CHARGER is inside your Mac.


The amount of power available from a USB-A power supply (Likely 0.9 Amps, or 4.5 Watts maximum, your Mac wants 80 to 100 Watts) and the voltage (Likely 5 volts ONLY, your Mac wants to negotiate 20 Volts using USB-C Power Delivery Protocol, not supported over USB-A) is probably enough to run your phone, maybe even charge your phone at the same time. Your Mac demands about ten times more than that to charge. That is unlikely to to be very productive.

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Aug 5, 2024 8:51 AM in response to pitchfork

the chunky block that plugs into the wall, that Apple sells to run your Mac is called a Power Adapter for good reason. The CHARGER is inside your Mac.


The amount of power available from a USB-A power supply (Likely 0.9 Amps, or 4.5 Watts maximum, your Mac wants 80 to 100 Watts) and the voltage (Likely 5 volts ONLY, your Mac wants to negotiate 20 Volts using USB-C Power Delivery Protocol, not supported over USB-A) is probably enough to run your phone, maybe even charge your phone at the same time. Your Mac demands about ten times more than that to charge. That is unlikely to to be very productive.

Aug 7, 2024 8:16 AM in response to pitchfork

<< thought of using a USB-A to USB-C cable to do this. >.


Great thought, BUT. That is not likely to be able to make a noticeable difference in your Mac. As readers are trying to tell you, that port like that can supply around 2.5 Watts, and what you need is more than TWENTY times more -- in excess of 50 Watts -- to make a difference, preferably Forty times more, 100 watts, to charge pleasantly.


A power-brick sized thing is about the smallest-sized source of continuous 100-ish Watts power, unless you invest in a high-end Power Bank -- but most of those can't supply enough power to charge your Mac at all, and the few that can, can't charge your Mac more than once.

Aug 5, 2024 9:01 AM in response to pitchfork

Note that if you are using a wall-powered

  • USB-C dock
  • Thunderbolt dock
  • Monitor that connects directly to the Mac using a USB-C to USB-C cable
  • Monitor that connects directly to the Mac using a Thunderbolt cable

in either location, that device might be willing to offer power to, and charge, your MBP. I don't know what setups you're using in your two locations, and thus, whether you might already have one of these other power sources – without knowing it.

Aug 7, 2024 12:25 AM in response to Servant of Cats

Ok thanks.

I know the charge will be a lot slower, as I'd usually be using this on 100% battery, but just want something ticking along to give it power, even if it is slow.


Basically I won't have the 'Power Adaptor' block with me, but do have a wall plug built in USB-A socket where I am.


I know you have the option of charging with the Apple Adaptor slot on the MBP or using a USB-C socket, so thought of using a USB-A to USB-C cable to do this

Aug 5, 2024 8:54 AM in response to pitchfork

Charge your MacBook Air or MacBook Pro - Apple Support


You can charge your MacBook Pro using either MagSafe 3 or USB-C. I would not recommend charging it using a USB-A power supply. Not that I would expect this to harm anything – but your MacBook Pro might not charge all that fast, if at all.


There are two types of USB-C power:


  • Traditional 5V power. This is the type that you see both on USB-A and on USB-C. USB 2.0 host ports will offer 2.5 watts of it (500 mA @ 5V). USB 3.0 host ports will offer 4.5 watts of it (900 mA @ 5V). I think that USB-C cables are supposed to be able to safely carry 15 watts of it (3 A @ 5V).
  • Negotiated Power Delivery power. The original version allowed delivery of up to 5 A at up to 20 V (100 watts). The current version allows delivery of up to 5 A at up to 48 V (240 watts). I believe that if you use the USB-C ports on a M1 {Pro/Max} MBP to charge, the applicable standard is the original one, and the notebook will not negotiate charging power in excess of 100 watts. (The 16" M1 {Pro/Max} MBP requires the combination of an Apple 140W USB-C power brick and a MagSafe 3 charging cable to fast-charge, even though it can charge at normal speed over a USB-C port.)


If your M1 {Pro/Max} MBP is a 14" one, it would have come with a 67W, 70W, or 96W charger. If it is a 16" one, it would have come with a 140W charger.


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