macOS Ventura v 13.6.9 - issue with calibritePROFILER

After update for V 13.6.9, the i1DisplayPRO plus (calibritePROFILER) is not recognized on this iMac and cannot be activated.

Steps attempted to solve the problem:

Ran calibration software 2X (checked settings for all)

Restarted iMac with device.

Restarted iMac with device unplugged.

Tried another port for plug-in.


-Checked on-line for reports of issues (no recent reports) & have advised the device vendor of this issue with the Apple update.


Device and software was operating fine prior to this latest Apple update.


Finally got System to recognize a previous saved color-profile on this system but the profiler device is no longer active (there is a pulsing-light on the profiler which does not work since the Apple update).


Not able to verify color(s) or profiles properly without this device in active mode.


Time wasted (including wasted test-printing and devising a work-around to correct the problem) = 2 HOURS, approximately.

iMac 27″ 5K, macOS 13.6

Posted on Aug 11, 2024 3:45 PM

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Posted on Aug 18, 2024 12:06 PM

Just for closure on this issue. Again, thank-you so much for the help! I did get excellent support from Calibrite - did a proper full re-install device and app - alas, no pulsing-light to indicate that device is operating when I am working - but the device does the actual work it is installed to do.


Again, oddly, it seems to be something in the last dot-release update from Apple. As I explained to the Calibrite support people, too - as with any external drive or device, we kinda like to see something that lets us know that a device is working. Not having to do extra tests and constantly re-starting something or checking the OS, etc., would be nice, as our time has value, also (maybe not as valuable as Apple's time in their mind, ... .)


Final note: After a full shutdown for an OS-system restart, when turning the power back on, the LED-light pulses once, on that device - clearly indicates that the light does indeed work: But when the OS started up - the device no longer shows the pulsing light. It's gone and now it's up to Apple to fix, ... or not.


Thank-you!

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Aug 18, 2024 12:06 PM in response to Kurt Lang

Just for closure on this issue. Again, thank-you so much for the help! I did get excellent support from Calibrite - did a proper full re-install device and app - alas, no pulsing-light to indicate that device is operating when I am working - but the device does the actual work it is installed to do.


Again, oddly, it seems to be something in the last dot-release update from Apple. As I explained to the Calibrite support people, too - as with any external drive or device, we kinda like to see something that lets us know that a device is working. Not having to do extra tests and constantly re-starting something or checking the OS, etc., would be nice, as our time has value, also (maybe not as valuable as Apple's time in their mind, ... .)


Final note: After a full shutdown for an OS-system restart, when turning the power back on, the LED-light pulses once, on that device - clearly indicates that the light does indeed work: But when the OS started up - the device no longer shows the pulsing light. It's gone and now it's up to Apple to fix, ... or not.


Thank-you!

Aug 29, 2024 12:42 PM in response to Kurt Lang

Thanks again, Kurt, for your incredible help!


It is concluded, as you pointed out, that the CalibritePROFILER software upgrade for the i1DisplayPRO does not support the 'pulsing-light' on this device. After everything, the only way to confirm that the device is working is to - each time - open their PROFILER window and double-check that it is 'Active'.


The Calibrite support person was helpful and did note my concern/complaint. Although, I do not agree at all for not supporting the 'active pulsing-light' on the device, I asked if they might, at least, consider posting a notice on their upgrade to let users know that this feature is no longer supported on ...(??certain operating systems?? versions?? - ??monitors?? etc., ) as we have spent hours-and-hours trying to fix the unfixable.


My DUH, this time. So many events occurred in the same time-space - major upgrade for the OS, and major application-software updates, dot-after-dot OS updates, ... . I was convinced that something in the iMacOS was the cause. It is not - as you point out.


If and when my work takes me to the next level of nits-and-gamut demand, I'll reach out to you for advice! You have an amazing understanding of it all. And it makes a huge difference when it comes to the real print results.



iMac 5K, 27”, 2017; 3.4 GHz Quad-Core Intel Core i5; Radeon Pro 570 4 GB; macOS Version 13.6.9 (22G830)

Aug 20, 2024 7:52 AM in response to F. Quill

Oh, DUH! I just realized the colorimeter you're using is out of production. The Calibrite software doesn't support that model. These are the only ones, which are all newer units:


Calibrite Display 123

Calibrite Display SL

Calibrite Display Pro HL

Calibrite Display Plus HL

ColorChecker Display

ColorChecker Display Pro

ColorChecker Display Plus


So, I went back to X-Rite's site to look up your model (that's where I finally found it's an out of production unit). If you check for the latest software, it tells you to go to calibrite.com, which is pointless since the software there doesn't support your device.


That led me over to X-Rite's main download page where I figured, what the heck, I'll just look to see what devices i1Profiler supports. And there in the listing, it plainly states:


Version 3.7.1

Upgrade Notes – This was the last i1Profiler release to support the i1Display family of display colorimeters. These devices will be supported in software from X-Rite’s partner Calibrite. Please go to www.calibrite.com to download new software.

i1Profiler 3.7.1 adds support for macOS 14 (Sonoma).


And we already know the second sentence isn't true. At least not if the user has an older device.


It appears then your best bet is to install i1Profiler 3.7.1.


I've used X-Rite's stuff for about four decades, and one thing in particular that will drive you nuts is how quickly they mothball older devices. Nothing wrong with what you have, works just fine, but it suddenly gets dropped from software support. It's a very forced, and expensive, upgrade train they try to keep their users on.


Not that it's impossible to keep using your older devices, but you then have to dead-end yourself with the last version of software that supports your device, and the last OS it will run under. But plenty of print shops do that. No way are they going to unnecessarily toss a $3,000 i1iSis auto-reading spectrophotometer that has nothing wrong with it. They just keep an older Mac or Windows machine running to use it for that one purpose.


On the flip side (to be fair), some equipment has to be left in the dust. And these types of colorimeters are always the first to go. The issue is that monitors are advancing rapidly. Both in the nits (brightness) they can emit, and much wider color gamuts. Even compared to displays from just a few years ago.


What happens is the older colorimeters can't handle this output. Sure, you can still run the software with the older device and create what you think is a usable monitor profile. But, it's actually not a very good profile. The output from the monitor exceeds the colorimeter's physical ability to handle the output (clipped) and can't produce an accurate result. The current low end Display SL can handle 1,000 nits. Which sounds like a lot until you compare it to the Display Plus HL, which can handle 10,000 nits.


Edit: Or, you can go back to calibrite.com on the software downloads page. Scroll down to the bottom of older software. ccProfiler 1.1.4 supports your colorimeter.

Aug 18, 2024 12:22 PM in response to F. Quill

I have to wonder if this has anything to do with the OS or not. While I did sell most of my equipment after closing down our in-home business a few years ago, I do still have an X-Rite i1Pro 3 PLUS I use with i1Profiler. The XRD driver i1Profiler installs is 3.0.152. This is working just fine in Sonoma 14.6.1.


Couple of things to try. First would be to create a new user account for testing. Login to the new account and test the i1DisplayPRO plus there. Since the XRD drivers exist in the root Library folder, you shouldn't have to install it again.


If it works in a new account, then something in your main/normal account is interfering. In order for your fellow users here help you track down what may be the issue, download and run EtreCheck. When it's done running, copy/paste the report here, using the Additional text option (they're normally too long for the regular reply box).



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Aug 19, 2024 4:44 PM in response to F. Quill

You were in the right place:


Library>Application Support> X-Rite> Framework


If you highlight that Framework folder and do a Get Info, the version number will be shown.


I sounds like you removed, then reinstalled the Calibrate software in your main user account. In order to test and see if something in that account is causing the failure, open the System Settings. Guessing a bit here for the exact steps as I'm currently on my iPad. But once in the settings panel, click on Users & Groups. Choose to create a new account. A standard account is fine, it doesn't need to be admin.


Once created, log out of your main account and into the new test account. Check to see if your device works there.

Aug 13, 2024 9:39 AM in response to F. Quill

You're welcome. 🙂 Though I'm not certain from your response that the device is now working.


I also just noticed that the second link is for a newer version of the same XRD driver. The one on calibrate.com is version 3.0.132. The link to X-Rite's page clearly states:


Version: v3.0.150

Previous Version: v3.0.132


So, if it's still not working, try the newer 3.0.150 version.

Aug 12, 2024 7:22 PM in response to Kurt Lang

Thank-you, so much. You have some top-notch problem-solving skills.

I did receive some other support suggestions from Calibrite which seem to prove that the device is actually working.

Perhaps this OS version has determined that I don't need to know if the device works or not - as would normally be indicated at least by the pulse-light on that device - or an indication that a port on this mac acknowledges that device as active.


The latest OS dot-update (and degenerating from that last three, or so) introduce yet another something that interferes with a smooth workflow.


Thank-you for helping!

Aug 19, 2024 3:54 PM in response to Kurt Lang

You are terrific! You have provided so much detailed help.

I did find the Application version 3.0.152, in the System Info > Software > Applications on this iMac.

It has valid certification with Apple. (under Calibrite - for the device, as of June 30th?? 2024)


However, I see nothing in the Library>Application Support> X-Rite> Framework ... etc.

in the files XR (description).r that correlates with a 'driver' or that version.


Regarding a 'new account' - if I understand correctly - Most recently, I did do a complete uninstall(trashcan) of all calibrite and x-rite apps - unplugged the device - shutdown - restart OS and then got a new download and reinstall of the Calibrite profiler (which now manages the profiles for i1Display Pro devices, etc.). as per the steps provided from calibrite-support.

This did not help the device but it helped prove to me that the device is working and that this iMac knows it is plugged into a USB.


I am afraid that I might not have understood correctly what you mean by a 'new account'.


Again, it may be another day-or-two before I can do any more work on this.


Have a great day!


this iMac is Ventura 13.6.9

(2017 - Retina 5K, 27-inch);

3.4 GHz Quad-Core Intel Core i5;

Radeon Pro 570 4 GB;

16 GB 2400 MHz DDR4

Aug 19, 2024 8:42 PM in response to Kurt Lang

Thank-you, again! Used your directions for setting up another user account, and trying out the i1Dsplayprofiler device: still no light.


I might have to think about what I've done, ... . So the last full OS system back-up that I did, before I got distracted by this nagging device-issue, was prior to the last.dot (.9) update (that I still think has something to do with this problem - because the device (light) worked - I did the update - then the device-light no longer worked).


Maybe a lesson to be learned about backing up other device drivers/pkgs separately. Hmmm., .


I really do appreciate all of your help. You certainly do know your way around how this device works.

There are some other suggestions and links which you provided that I will be happy to utilize in the days-to-come , as my schedule permits.


Have a great evening (or whatever time of day it is where you are)!



Aug 29, 2024 12:59 PM in response to F. Quill

You have an amazing understanding of it all. And it makes a huge difference when it comes to the real print results.

Thanks! Though I must admit it's mainly because I forced myself into it. The earliest machines I did color and retouching work on were Scitex Imager III workstations. This is roughly 6 some years before Photoshop 1.0 existed. The only way to calibrate those were to first make CMYK proofs of specific CMYK colors. Then, as best as possible, eyeball match those colors to a patch set the software ran to create its own profile. Hardly scientific, but that's all there was.


Anyway, I started my own in-home business doing prepress work and ended up tossing myself head first into learning real color management. It's a bit mind boggling at first, but you reach a point where it clicks, and then you wonder why it seemed so difficult to understand before.

Aug 29, 2024 2:31 PM in response to Kurt Lang

Funny, ... how lucky I was to find you at the right time! Two peas in a color-pod! I came from the CMYK world - way back. Later, I got back into photography - all digital. Soon realized that I was missing a lot of info regarding gamut, color-spaces, profiles, etc., and all that happens in post-processing before it hits the paper (or screen). So I spent 2 years deep-diving into learning everything about the digital world of color and color-management. Now, I can even match print colors with better-than-average accuracy.

You are so right - it does 'click' at a certain point, ... but there is no going back. 🙂


Thanks, again!

Aug 29, 2024 2:42 PM in response to F. Quill

A new one I had to experiment with was with my iPhone 14 Pro. I had sold all of my other camera gear as I no longer needed it (Nikon D800, along with all of my lenses, etc.)


But, how in the world do you use your Color Checker, or Digital Color Checker charts with an iPhone? I shoot everything as RAW, and whenever possible, at 1x so I get a 48 MP, DNG image.


You can't just open the DNG shot of your chart in Camera RAW of Photoshop to a TIFF since it's then been processed, and is no longer a raw, uncontrolled color rendition of the image. Trying to make a profile from the target always resulted in weird results.


The solution is to do your profiling directly with the DNG image with X-Rite's Color Checker Camera Calibration app. Drop your DNG image (that has a color checker chart in it) onto the app. Position the target boxes as necessary and save a profile. Then you select that profile in Camera RAW.

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