Use of the Retouch tool in Photos on a RAW image is darkening the resulted image

Hello.


Since one of the first versions of Sonoma, using the tool Retouch in the Photos app on a RAW image has become a destruction of the resulting image.


Steps to reproduce the problem:


1. Take a RAW file like the one below:


2. Use the Retouch tool to remove spots and click anywhere in the image.


3. Finish the editing and the image becomes darkened.


Notice that the histogram has not changed. If you try now to brighten the resulted image, you end up burning it.


I have been experiencing this issue with Nikon Zfc RAW files and only since Sonoma.


I tried to repair the library but this did't work. Also started a new library with no success either.


Any new suggestion is welcome.


Thank you.

Posted on Sep 8, 2024 4:37 AM

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Posted on Sep 8, 2024 5:29 AM

I cannot reproduce the effect, but I am using a different camera model.


How has your camera been set, when you took the photo? Have you been using any built-in effects, when you took the shot? For example Nikon's "Active delighting"?

It looks like the RAW file has been heavily underexposed, intentionally according to a camera preset, but the JPEG preview generated by the camera is showing the correct exposure. Apple's RAW development does not take the camera presets into account.

See this user Tip by Keith Barkley - it has been written for Aperture but is still valid for Photos: The Big Three: Setting your camera for the Best RAW Resu… - Apple Community.



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Sep 8, 2024 5:29 AM in response to cristianfromoviedo

I cannot reproduce the effect, but I am using a different camera model.


How has your camera been set, when you took the photo? Have you been using any built-in effects, when you took the shot? For example Nikon's "Active delighting"?

It looks like the RAW file has been heavily underexposed, intentionally according to a camera preset, but the JPEG preview generated by the camera is showing the correct exposure. Apple's RAW development does not take the camera presets into account.

See this user Tip by Keith Barkley - it has been written for Aperture but is still valid for Photos: The Big Three: Setting your camera for the Best RAW Resu… - Apple Community.



Sep 8, 2024 8:04 AM in response to léonie

Hello léonie.


Thanks for your reply and for the shared article. It is very interesting. I had the Active D-Lighting configuration activated but the rest is in default settings. No built-in effects or similar.


I have just right now tested shooting with D-Lightning OFF and also Picture Control in Standard instead of Auto, just in case. Regretfully there is no improvement of the issue. Nevertheless, even if this would have solve it, it is a RAW image, and that means there are no adjustments applied to it on the camera side. As you explained, the camera adjustments would change the ISO, aperture and speed values, but the final picture, correctly or incorrectly exposed, would remain a RAW picture, without filters.


Also, remember that this very same camera, with the very same settings, has been producing pictures without issues until the arrival of Mac OS Sonoma. That makes difficult to look for a solution on the camera settings side.


You write that the RAW file has been heavily underexposed. What makes you write that? I tend to lower the exposure 1/3 when taking my pictures, because it is always possible to recover shadows and not possible to recover burnt parts. But the example picture is not heavily underexposed, or even lightly underexposed. You see in the histogram that most of the pixels are on the bright side. Maybe I'm missing something?


If you are writing about the third capture in my post, where you see an underexposed picture, that is the result of applying the Retouch tool. That is the problem being caused by the Photos app.


Regards.

Sep 8, 2024 10:06 AM in response to cristianfromoviedo

When I wrote "heavily under exposed" I suspected the dark version to be the original RAW, taken underexposed because of the "Active D-Lighting". In Photos you will not see what the original RAW file is like, as long as Photos is preserving the Preview created by the Camera, who can compensate for the "Active D-Lighting". we will only see what the original RAW file is like, once Photos has discarded the preview of the developed image created by the camera.


But if you are getting the same results for Pictures taken without "Active D-Lighting", I am at a loss. I hope Keith Barkley will join this discussion.



Sep 8, 2024 11:55 AM in response to léonie

Yes, you are right that, if you do not touch the image, then Photos is displaying the preview from the camera. But this is only until you start editing the image. Then Photos is creating its own preview. This process works perfectly and the preview generated by Photos is correct as expected during the whole editing process.


Until you use the Retouch tool. At least that is the problem that I'm facing.

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