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User profile for user: Deromax
Deromax Author
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Compressor encoding time

Hello all!


Compressor 4.7 on a M2 Max Mac Studio, Sonoma 14.7.


I'm converting a 14 minutes 3840 X 2160 422 Pro-res video file to HEVC 8 bits, at 50 mbps. If I leave the default setting at the "Faster" single pass setting, it takes 4 minutes to encode, which seems to be very reasonnable. If I select the "Better quality" multipass setting, the time jumps to 2 hours and 22 minutes, which seems to be way too much!


In comparison, when doing H264 encoding, the change from single pass to multipass barely double the encoding time. We're now talking 35 times slower here!


Is it a question of the hardware encoder not being used if I'm outside of the default parameters? Or something else?


I can't readily distinguish between the 2 files, but this video is mostly steady talking head style, unchallenging material.


Thanks!

Mac Studio, macOS 14.7

Posted on Sep 27, 2024 10:34 AM

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User profile for user: Luis Sequeira1
Luis Sequeira1
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67,870 points

Sep 27, 2024 11:13 AM in response to Deromax

I tested a similar video in an M1 Max, and here is what I found:


using "Faster", the CPU use was rather low, some 55% for a "Transcoder Service" plus a few VTDecoderXPCService instances, some 6% each, for a total of less than 1 core.


using "Slower", the CPU use of VTEncoderXPCService was between 300% and 400%.


This pretty much confirms my suspicion that "slower" is software based and "faster" is hardware based.

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User profile for user: Deromax
Deromax Author
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Sep 27, 2024 12:00 PM in response to Deromax

Me again! :) I activated another option in HandBrake (hardware decoder, that takes care or the Pro-res decoding I guess) that halved the time once more, so under 5 minutes for a multipass encode of my 14 minutes test video. That's the kind of performance I was expecting of my Mac Studio!


So it's case closed! Sad that a freeware is dramatically besting a 200$ pro software! :/


Thanks for your time!

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User profile for user: Matti Haveri
Matti Haveri
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Oct 11, 2024 2:12 AM in response to Luis Sequeira1

Luis Sequeira1 wrote:

This pretty much confirms my suspicion that "slower" is software based and "faster" is hardware based.

Have you tested if the "faster" HW (GPU?) based output is the same quality as the "slower" SW based output especially with difficult input (poor lighting, lots of noise and movement etc)?


I tested this ages ago and AFAIR SW output was better quality but I am not anymore sure about that and which macOS and FCP versions I used then.


At least ffmpeg is said to have clearly better quality with SW encoding. I have not yet tried that and there might be a difference between GPU and Intel CPU's VAAPI hardware acceleration.

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User profile for user: Deromax
Deromax Author
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Oct 11, 2024 6:33 AM in response to Matti Haveri

Hi! In Handbrake, I select the "Video toolbox" in the codec list, which is Apple language for their own hardware encoder. I setup the same parameters, like multipass, same bitrate, etc. I'm pretty sure they have a competent encoder. They are touting this as a big plus for pro video jobs after all!


I didn't bought a screaming fast Mac Studio for it to be only twice as fast as my previous late 2013 iMac! ;)


Maybe there is a setting in Compressor that must be set, I didn't found it.

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User profile for user: Luis Sequeira1
Luis Sequeira1
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Oct 11, 2024 7:07 AM in response to Matti Haveri

Matti Haveri wrote:


Luis Sequeira1 wrote:

This pretty much confirms my suspicion that "slower" is software based and "faster" is hardware based.
Have you tested if the "faster" HW (GPU?) based output is the same quality as the "slower" SW based output especially with difficult input (poor lighting, lots of noise and movement etc)?

I tested this ages ago and AFAIR SW output was better quality but I am not anymore sure about that and which macOS and FCP versions I used then.

At least ffmpeg is said to have clearly better quality with SW encoding. I have not yet tried that and there might be a difference between GPU and Intel CPU's VAAPI hardware acceleration.

No, I have not tested with difficult to encode material. I may do so but not today and probably not tomorrow, as I have some things that need to be finished. I will try when I have more time and see how it goes. I am also curious how different, if at all, the encoded results are in an M1 Max compared to an Intel mac.

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