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Apple Intelligence brings incredible new features across iPhone, iPad, and Mac.

The first set of features is now available, with many more rolling out in the coming months.

⏺ Overview

⏺ Compatible Devices

⏺ iOS 18

⏺ iPadOS 18

⏺ macOS Sequoia

may i 'please' understand why apple intelligence is not available on the mac purchased in china

located in australia, bought my mac in china, just had my m1 mac upgraded to sequoia 15.1, but found apple intelligence nowhere in the settings, searched and found it's not support the devices purchased in china


so confused, what should i do now? sell it and buy a new one? or apply for a visa for my mac?

Posted on Oct 28, 2024 4:59 PM

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Posted on Oct 31, 2024 2:58 PM

You should not have been confused. It was never reported that the initial release of Apple Intelligence would include anything other than support for US English.


For Apple Intelligence in China, this is what they say:

For China residents: Apple Intelligence will not currently work for supported devices purchased in China mainland. For supported devices purchased outside of China mainland, Apple Intelligence will not currently work if you are in China mainland and if your Apple Account Country/Region is also in China mainland.

When Apple Intelligence is available in the EU or China mainland, previously purchased devices that support Apple Intelligence will be able to activate and use it in that region.

How to get Apple Intelligence - Apple Support


And as recently as less than an hour ago, this is what was said at Apple's Investor conference about future rollouts of Apple Intelligence:

Q: As you think about this staggered rollout of Apple Intelligence, can you help us think through the potential global install base of phones that will have access in their native language or region in their next year or next two years, and what are some of the gating factors in the rollout?


A: If you look at our schedule, we started with US English on Monday. There's another release coming that adds additional features in December, not only in US English but also localized for UK, Australia, Canada, Ireland and New Zealand. Then we will add more languages in April. We haven't said the specifics yet in terms of languages, but we'll add more in April and then more as we step through the year. We're moving just as fast as possible while ensuring quality.

https://www.macrumors.com/2024/10/31/apple-4q-2024-earnings/

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Oct 31, 2024 2:58 PM in response to eric_fxf

You should not have been confused. It was never reported that the initial release of Apple Intelligence would include anything other than support for US English.


For Apple Intelligence in China, this is what they say:

For China residents: Apple Intelligence will not currently work for supported devices purchased in China mainland. For supported devices purchased outside of China mainland, Apple Intelligence will not currently work if you are in China mainland and if your Apple Account Country/Region is also in China mainland.

When Apple Intelligence is available in the EU or China mainland, previously purchased devices that support Apple Intelligence will be able to activate and use it in that region.

How to get Apple Intelligence - Apple Support


And as recently as less than an hour ago, this is what was said at Apple's Investor conference about future rollouts of Apple Intelligence:

Q: As you think about this staggered rollout of Apple Intelligence, can you help us think through the potential global install base of phones that will have access in their native language or region in their next year or next two years, and what are some of the gating factors in the rollout?


A: If you look at our schedule, we started with US English on Monday. There's another release coming that adds additional features in December, not only in US English but also localized for UK, Australia, Canada, Ireland and New Zealand. Then we will add more languages in April. We haven't said the specifics yet in terms of languages, but we'll add more in April and then more as we step through the year. We're moving just as fast as possible while ensuring quality.

https://www.macrumors.com/2024/10/31/apple-4q-2024-earnings/

Oct 31, 2024 4:20 PM in response to Mac Jim ID

Hey Jim,


Thanks for replying to leave your opinions. But I can't agree that I 'SHOULD NOT' be confused. Here's a few WHYs.


"It was never reported that the initial release of Apple Intelligence would include anything other than support for US English."

Are you saying the Apple devices purchased from China are not supporting US English? I don't think so. It's easy to switch between diverse languages wherever you bought your devices from, which means wherever you bought your Apple device, of course all of them support US English. And btw, I'm on English settings now.


"For Apple Intelligence in China, this is what they say: For China residents: Apple Intelligence will not currently work for supported devices purchased in China mainland. For supported devices purchased outside of China mainland, Apple Intelligence will not currently work if you are in China mainland and if your Apple Account Country/Region is also in China mainland."

To clarify, 1) my device was purchased in China. 2) I'm NOT in China. 3) my Apple account country is NOT in China. So, this's actually the core part that I'm confused about. Limits over a software functionality usually are set up from the software levels. It's reasonable and acceptable, if it's limited by user real-time location or user account region, etc. However, the limits come with 'purchasing' location this time, which feels odd. Actually I left a reply in this thread to ask about it. But the funny thing is, I was told my question was not constructive and it was deleted from here (instead of removing or closing up the entire thread). Quite interesting, I'm wondering why a question needs to be constructive. It's not an advice or suggestion. It's just purely my confusion and curiosity.


In conclusion:

    1. I don't think it's anything about "language". Because user is allowed to change their system language or input language. And all the Apple devices support US English.
    2. It doesn't make sense to limit by "purchase location". Unless you tell me there's any limits from the hardware level.


Thank you.


Oct 31, 2024 4:23 PM in response to eric_fxf

eric_fxf wrote:

Hey Jim,

Thanks for replying to leave your opinions. But I can't agree that I 'SHOULD NOT' be confused. Here's a few WHYs.

"It was never reported that the initial release of Apple Intelligence would include anything other than support for US English."
Are you saying the Apple devices purchased from China are not supporting US English? I don't think so. It's easy to switch between diverse languages wherever you bought your devices from, which means wherever you bought your Apple device, of course all of them support US English. And btw, I'm on English settings now.

"For Apple Intelligence in China, this is what they say: For China residents: Apple Intelligence will not currently work for supported devices purchased in China mainland. For supported devices purchased outside of China mainland, Apple Intelligence will not currently work if you are in China mainland and if your Apple Account Country/Region is also in China mainland."
To clarify, 1) my device was purchased in China. 2) I'm NOT in China. 3) my Apple account country is NOT in China. So, this's actually the core part that I'm confused about. Limits over a software functionality usually are set up from the software levels. It's reasonable and acceptable, if it's limited by user real-time location or user account region, etc. However, the limits come with 'purchasing' location this time, which feels odd. Actually I left a reply in this thread to ask about it. But the funny thing is, I was told my question was not constructive and it was deleted from here (instead of removing or closing up the entire thread). Quite interesting, I'm wondering why a question needs to be constructive. It's not an advice or suggestion. It's just purely my confusion and curiosity.

In conclusion:

I don't think it's anything about "language1. ". Because user is allowed to change their system language or input language. And all the Apple devices support US English.
It doesn't make sense to limit by "purchase location1. ". Unless you tell me there's any limits from the hardware level.

Thank you.

You are missing the point here. Sure, your Mac can be set to US English. That isn't enough. Your Mac was manufactured for China and no devices manufactured for China are yet eligible for Apple Intelligence. I would imagine Apple is in discussion with the Chinese Government, but until THEY approve Apple Intelligence, Apple cannot turn it on for any device manufactured for China, regardless of where in the world the device is being used. Conversely, if I were to suddenly move to China, with all of my US purchased devices, NONE of them would still have access to Apple Intelligence while I was in China.


That is the point.

Oct 31, 2024 4:50 PM in response to eric_fxf

As Apple said For China residents: Apple Intelligence will not currently work for supported devices purchased in China mainland.


It says devices purchased in China will not work, it does not say a device purchased in China can change the region on the device to make it usable. Not sure about the Mac, but iPhone models purchased in China have a model number that ends in CH/A and will not work no matter what region/language you choose. The update will not go to those devices.


China is much more restrictive on what devices are allowed to be sold there and if a user could buy one of their devices and simply flip a switch or change the region to allow a feature they may consider illegal, I suspect they would not allow that device to be sold. They are well aware that a VPN can be used on a device to make it appear from a different location and the only sure way to prevent it is not allow it on a devices sold in their region.


If China does allow some form of Apple Intelligence on the devices that they sell, then the update for those previously purchased devices will be available. The link I posted also says:

When Apple Intelligence is available in the EU or China mainland, previously purchased devices that support Apple Intelligence will be able to activate and use it in that region.

Oct 31, 2024 4:53 PM in response to lobsterghost1

Your devices would definitely not have access to Apple Intelligence if you moved to China and used them there. Because AI data may need to be sent to the cloud for processing and response, and if the server you're interacting with is located outside China, data would need to pass through the GFW, potentially conflicting with Chinese compliance and regulations. However, if your account region is set outside China, and you're using your devices outside Chinese territory while interacting with a server that is also outside China, then Chinese compliance should not apply.


The only exception might be if data were unable to bypass Chinese servers or the GFW due to the devices' hardware, especially if they were manufactured in China and contain hardware elements controlled by Chinese regulations. In that case, it could explain any related restrictions.

may i 'please' understand why apple intelligence is not available on the mac purchased in china

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