Unrecognized User in my "EfiLoginUI" file (accessed by Root), and unrecognized Personal Shadow Keys? Have I Been Hacked?

I've been concerned that my Mac has been remotely accessed for a while now, so I've been trying to figure out where and who has been doing the accessing. Checking for login records returned nothing, but someone suggested that I check if the root user could be logged into as a sign (I didn't configure things that way) so I checked which files root have been accessing for the past couple days using this command:


-type f -user root -mtime -7 2>/dev/null


and started to look around to see what it was accessing. Most processes are pretty boring, but it seemed to be accessing a number of preboot files; a couple had proper names attatched.


In the EfiLoginUI folder there's a couple different files that I find concerning. One is labeled "Lucida13.efires" and "Lucida13White.efires" (name corresponds to someone I know) and a final one named "unknown_userUI.efires." Every time I turn on and connect to wifi (testing behaviour) the update date and the modifier date, the file's name starts to change.


I also found it accessing a file called "personal shadow keys" in KeyAccess. I set up key access a long time ago for school, but certainly never made "shadow keys." Is this normal? One seems to be tied to my zoom account and the file updated at the exact time of the call?


Have I been hacked? If I have, how can I find out more about who and what they're doing? I'll wipe it asap, but I'm curious what the forum thinks.


Edit: Also, how do I wipe this in the correct way?

MacBook Pro 14″

Posted on Oct 29, 2024 4:46 PM

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Oct 29, 2024 6:53 PM in response to someonesin24

someonesin24 wrote:

I've been concerned that my Mac has been remotely accessed

Don't be.

someone suggested that I check if the root user could be logged into as a sign

Someone is trolling you for their entertainment. I see many posts like yours. They often attract attention from malicious people trying to deceive you.

Is this normal? One seems to be tied to my zoom account and the file updated at the exact time of the call?

Yes. It is normal.


A fundamental aspect of the internet misinformation to which you've fallen victim is the idea that the built-in Apple security cannot be trusted, and random 3rd party software is more trustworthy. This is a classic psychological manipulation technique where the victim is isolated from their friends and family.

Have I been hacked?

No. you have not been hacked.


how do I wipe this in the correct way?

Here are instructions from Apple about how to erase your Mac: Erase your Mac - Apple Support


But you don't need to erase your Mac unless you have followed any kind of instructions from the internet. Your Mac was in its most secure configuration the day you opened the box and turned it on the first time. Any changes that you've made, and any 3rd party software you've installed, have reduced your security. In most cases, with normal apps, that isn't a big risk. But 3rd party "security" or "privacy" are always the most problematic.

Oct 29, 2024 9:00 PM in response to someonesin24

someonesin24 wrote:

Why would my ex roommate’s name be on those EfiLoginUi files then

That's just the name of the files. Apple often uses cryptic codewords for file names and never explains why. Those files have been on every Mac sold for years. I'm sure there is no relationship to your ex-roommate.


why would the files be shutting off access to me when I gave myself access an hour ago?

Apple's built-in operating system files are always restricted. Otherwise, people and 3rd party apps would regularly be breaking the system and making it unbootable. People would then take the computer back to Apple and demand Apple fix it or give them a refund.


In many cases, the reason for a certain behaviour in software is just to prevent certain problems caused by users.


I dont have any 3rd party “security”apps besides Malwarebytes (which I uninstalled) and etresoft.

I don't know the details of your computer. Such apps are extremely popular so I just assume they are installed.


I have other 3rd party software, but any professional has 3rd party software.

There's nothing wrong with 3rd party software if it provides some useful functionality or solves some specific problem. But the most popular consumer apps these days are simply scams. The developers are well-funded and have literally painted the internet with ads. That's really all it takes.


The advice wasn’t from online btw.

Doesn't mean I'm wrong.


Also are you the guy who wrote etresoft?

How do you know I'm a guy? Technically, I'm a corporation, which has no gender.

Oct 29, 2024 9:47 PM in response to etresoft

That's just the name of the files. Apple often uses cryptic codewords
for file names and never explains why. Those files have been on every
Mac sold for years. I'm sure there is no relationship to your
ex-roommate.


Well.... that's a bit of an unfortunate coincidence then when you're worried about your roommates trying to access your computer. This is helpful. Though I'll probably wipe it anyway; settings are changing with one showing the notice that it had been set by a profile (with that message disappearing soon after). I also want to get rid of anything Avid software. It talks too much with outside servers and seems to attach itself to every process in the whole computer.


And I guess the question was "are you John Daniels." I thought etresoft was just him.

Oct 29, 2024 7:25 PM in response to etresoft

Why would my ex roommate’s name be on those EfiLoginUi files then, and why would the files be shutting off access to me when I gave myself access an hour ago?


I dont have any 3rd party “security”apps besides Malwarebytes (which I uninstalled) and etresoft.


I have other 3rd party software, but any professional has 3rd party software. And this is a personal, unmanaged computer. The advice wasn’t from online btw.


Also are you the guy who wrote etresoft?

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