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Search broken after Sequoia upgrade

Hi. I upgraded today on my MBP M2 from 14.X and now most of the things that I used to be able to find via search are not found. This is crippling to me. Only a tiny fraction are available. Is there a way to reindex in the new OS? I used to run a very large ECM system and once in a blue moon the search would break in such a way that I would have to initiate a reindex in the background. It usually resulted from an upgrade where the new app wouldn't correctly read an index from an older version. Starting the reindex was easy. It was just a variation of rebuilding the man pages in unix, which was also easy. But is there a way to do this on Mac, or otherwise fix this issue? Help would be very much appreciated. I'm thinking of rolling back to 14. Thanks.

MacBook Pro 16″, macOS 15.1

Posted on Oct 31, 2024 6:14 PM

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Posted on Nov 7, 2024 12:16 PM

The add/remove fix above didn't work for me (at least not right away, and it was impossible to know if it worked). Tech support was great though (chat). The problem for me arose when trying to access an iCloud folder. But perhaps this might help for other folders.


To fix, he had me open Terminal:

  • sudo mdutil -Eai off 
  • sudo mdutil -Eai on 
  • mdutil -as


That's all it took to fix it. It started rebuilding immediately.

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Nov 7, 2024 12:16 PM in response to farrelli

The add/remove fix above didn't work for me (at least not right away, and it was impossible to know if it worked). Tech support was great though (chat). The problem for me arose when trying to access an iCloud folder. But perhaps this might help for other folders.


To fix, he had me open Terminal:

  • sudo mdutil -Eai off 
  • sudo mdutil -Eai on 
  • mdutil -as


That's all it took to fix it. It started rebuilding immediately.

Oct 31, 2024 6:48 PM in response to farrelli

Btw, I called support (useless) and was disconnected twice. I found this page about rebuilding the index:


Rebuild the Spotlight index on your Mac - Apple Support


But is just adding and removing (before saving) really doing anything? It only has you save AFTER adding and removing. Is there a way to look up the indexing process to see if it's really doing anything?

Nov 1, 2024 11:46 AM in response to farrelli

Spotlight is a typical Apple app in that when it works it's great but if it goes wrong it can be a pain. The steps you've taken are one way to fix it but as you're finding out it can take a long time. In the good old days Spotlight had a progress bar when it re-indexed and you used to be able to reindex from Terminal with a progress indicator but I don't know if 15 supports this - GIYF. I always have a backup search app on my Macs - Easyfind is what I've used for years. They're handy when spotlight goes titsup but they also find stuff that Spotlight doesn't find.

Dec 13, 2024 1:05 PM in response to farrelli

Performing one of the fixes suggested, seems to have worked (it took a few minutes). In system settings, spotlight, privacy I added a folder containing most of my files. I clicked done, did a quick finder search, then went back and removed the folder from the "privacy" list. Over the course of a few minutes, my files started re-appearing in the search. Next time a new MacOS comes out I will WAIT 5 or 6 months minimum before installing it!!

Dec 19, 2024 4:16 PM in response to Gebsy

YES! Thank you so much, Gebsy! This worked perfectly to fix my Finder search function failure (after installing Sequoia 15.2 apparently made it stop working). Much appreciatioon to you and to the tech support person who sent you that Terminal gobble-di-gook! GO TEAM! :-)


This:

"To fix, he had me open Terminal:

  • sudo mdutil -Eai off 
  • sudo mdutil -Eai on 
  • mdutil -as


That's all it took to fix it. It started rebuilding immediately."


Nov 16, 2024 10:23 AM in response to farrelli

I had the same issue after Sequoia update. The privacy add/remove approach seems to have worked for me. Left macbook overnight on caffeinate after the remove. I saw mdworker running for a while. It seems it is finding some of the things that I noticed were not indexed. I dont know what i dont know if anything remains missing. It would really be helpful, if we had some status api, or something that shows how many things are indexed.

Jan 11, 2025 11:33 AM in response to chuckefus

Are you saying that just a few items are missing? If so, please see my other thread linked to below. It closed due to inactivity, so I can't update it, even though I now know what's going on.


Apple has confirmed to me that they are aware of a bug where some items just don't show up in partial string searches. See my search screenshot of "Jeff" and "Vermont" as a good example. They have a "fix" but it's garbage. You have to start in safe mode with zero applications running and rebuild your index. And even then, new items added to the index after the rebuild running in normal mode would be subject to the bug.


Partial word match often broken after upg… - Apple Community


Oct 31, 2024 8:25 PM in response to farrelli

I think this did start a reindex because I'm seeing more and more things come up. I wish I knew if it had a process name so that I could see when its running, or a progress bar would be even better. Even better than that would be some kind of real documentation about how the indexing process worked, what it indexed, and how to preform maintenance. I actually upgraded in part to solve another indexing problem where comments in file properties wouldn't be indexed sometimes. I have not doe exhaustive troubleshooting but I think it might be that files where I have timecode as the first "word" don't indexed. If I change the order so that it comes after actual words, I can find the files. That all could be correlation through.


Search broken after Sequoia upgrade

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