Mac Mini M4 will not boot from external HD

I purchased a Mac Mini M4 the day they were released and tried to set it up so that it booted from an external SSD with a Crucial 4TB HD and dock. Using 15.1 for all OSs. I struggled to get it to boot and so called Apple Support, got escalated, then told me to go to Apple Store. I did and the rep at the store verified my experiences and said "I have bad news - looks like you have found an unresolved bug. I suggest you return the product and wait for the bug to be resolved". So I did. Wonder if any others have had similar experience.


David

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Minisopuru Mac Mini Dock & Stand with M.2 NVMe SSD Enclosure, Upgrade 8 in 1 Mac Mini hub Support 10Gbps USB C/A, TF& SD Card, Audio Jack, Mac Mini Accessories for Mac Mini M2/M2 Pro/M1(2018 & Later)


Crucial P3 Plus 4TB PCIe Gen4 3D NAND NVMe M.2 SSD, up to 5000MB/s - CT4000P3PSSD8


Mac Mini M4 - 256 GB HD


Bootable SSD will boot with iMac and Macbook running 15.1.


Mini recognizes the bootable SSD but when I try to restart I get error message from mini says: "OS needs to be updated".


Changed security settings for as Apple suggested (Reduced Security).

Posted on Nov 12, 2024 9:14 AM

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Posted on Nov 15, 2024 4:18 AM

I had the same issue. With the new Mac you need to make a new bootable drive. The previous bootable drive will not work. The Platform is not compatible. I redid my bootable drive using the new M4 Mac and works fine. That being said I did use my previous external clone drive to migrate to my new Mac M4 and had no issues. It just could not be used as a boot drive until I redid it using the new Mac M4.

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Nov 15, 2024 5:43 PM in response to david3_1415

david3_1415 wrote:

Bootable SSD will boot with iMac and Macbook running 15.1.


Are those machines Intel-based or Apple-Silicon-based?


I would not be too surprised to find that any particular installation of macOS works only with one processor type. Sequoia runs both on Apple Silicon Macs and on some Intel Macs, but that would not necessarily mean that you could take a Sequoia startup drive from an Intel Mac, and boot from it on an Apple Silicon Mac, or vice versa.

Dec 2, 2024 10:51 PM in response to david3_1415

I got same issue with my m2 Mac mini bootable external drive. I used to use external macOS 15.1.1 on my m2 Mac mini. When I upgraded to m4 pro Mac mini. I couldn’t boot my from my old drive. At last I have to transfer it to my internal SSD on the m4 pro Mac mini. Based on the reports that m4 macs cannot virtualize macOS version earlier than 13.4. I guess the macOS 15 on M1-3 and M4 chips are not exactly the same one.

Nov 12, 2024 10:14 AM in response to david3_1415

There could be several reasons why this problem exists but here is what I would do.

  • Reformat the SSD only using Disk Utility. Do not use any so-called maintenance apps which may have come with the SSD. They do cause problems. Make sure the SSD is formatted the same as your Mac's HD is.
  • Download and reinstall the OS. The original OS on it my have been corrupted. This will often happen when it is downloaded via Wi-Fi. Better to use a wired Ethernet connection. If that is not possible, then you may have to do multiple downloads to get one that works.
  • If the problem still persists, I would replace the SSD.

Jan 1, 2025 1:29 AM in response to david3_1415

There is no real problem as long as you format the external drive the same as the internal one and install Sequoia on it (I use an Orico 2Tb SSD in an USB-c Orico enclosure with heat sink and fan – probably necessary). I found it better to transfer manually my contents and apps rather than use the legacy option. The only thing is that Time Machine won't work with the external drive – I spent a frustrating 3 1/2 hours on the phone with Apple technicians before giving up the ghost. The way I found around that is that before going to bed, I restart from the internal drive with the TM option set to "Save once a day". When I get up in the morning, I restart from the external drive... and the Time Machine has done its job, the new restoration perfectly accessible from the external drive. Not such a big price to pay for a much faster and roomier system disk.

Dec 6, 2024 8:33 AM in response to Ian R. Brown

Guys.....It does NOT work...Everything installs properly. The drives are all recognized as they should be, but when we actually try to re-boot to an EXTERNAL drive using OSX 15.xxxx and a M1 -M4 CPU it will not boot to that external drive.

I spent way to much time on this, changing cables, changing SSD drives, changing external enclosures............still it does not boot..


Mike S

Nov 14, 2024 10:38 AM in response to david3_1415

I have exactly the same problem, got my M4 the day of the release to swap a M1 Mac mini which I have booting from this external drive, when I started the M4 and connect the external WD NVME on a TB Acacis case I get an "SDErrorDomain error 104". Escalate to a senior engineer on Sunday from apple and they haven't get back to me. Getting frustrated because Apple shouldn't block this kind of practice to force people to purchase their savage and expensive storage ! If I don't resolve this in the next days I'll return the machine.

Dec 5, 2024 11:25 AM in response to david3_1415

David & Luis,


I am raising my hand as well. I have an M1 MacMini, and I have spent the last 4 days reading and watching every source possible, to learn how to boot from my external SSD drive. I get the exact same error - " OS needs to be Updated"...This is basically inexcusable from Apple. Why are we all rushing to expand our external bootable storage????


Booting from an external drive( until now) has been beyond-simple....Now they have made it impossible..to make matters worse :>> If they knew that it cannot be done, it would be nice if they let us all know that....


Guys, will a "patch" or update allow us to use an external SSD... or do you think this is a permanent situation for all Silicon CPUs ?


Thank you both very much for your comments above, to inform us on the situation.

Cheers,

Mike


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Nov 13, 2024 6:20 PM in response to Ronasara

Thanks for the reply.

  • I did use Disk Utility.
  • I re-downloaded and re-installed the OS twice. And since it works with two other Macs, it was my guess that it was a good OS.
  • The SSD appears to be the most likely culprit but since the M4 minis are so new I don't see any that specify they work with that. tbirdvet did note that he got a combo working so that is one to try. I am hoping that there are others.

Thanks


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