Is my Macbook at normal Temperatures?

I just got the new Macbook Pro with the M4 chip yesterday. I heard that it would be a good idea to a Temperature monitoring app would be good. So I downloaded TG Pro, a trusted app according to goggle, however, when I downloaded the app it was showing that my Macbook was at 124ºF. So I closed all the other apps and browsers open. However, according to TG Pro, My mac is still at 104ºF, is that normal?


Here are the Temperatures shown to me by TG pro:

MacBook Pro 14″

Posted on Nov 29, 2024 11:40 AM

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Posted on Nov 29, 2024 12:13 PM

Yes, your Mac is operating at a normal temperature and not overheating if (when) your MacBook Pro is booted and running; it’s running within what Apple considers a normal temperature range.


Apple system management firmware is designed to interpret and react to readings from Apple’s fan speed and thermal sensors, and the firmware will take steps to cool down or to potentially power down the hardware for self-preservation, if and when that is necessary.


Apple typically doesn’t document those sensors nor how to interpret the sensor readings, nor does Apple document normal operating ranges.


Processors operating at around 60°C are not particularly unusual, and brief spikes to 80°C have been reported with some Macs.


But again, nobody around here knows the thermal profiles, nor the sensor reading definitions, and Apple doesn’t usually publish that info.


For assistance with interpreting what a third-party app might (claim to) show, please contact the third-party app vendor. And if a third-party app vendor had that range, they’d probably show it. But here we are.


PS: I’d be extremely skeptical about reducing fan speeds and reducing cooling when using any third-party fan-control apps. I would not suggest doing that.

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Nov 29, 2024 12:13 PM in response to Shadow322

Yes, your Mac is operating at a normal temperature and not overheating if (when) your MacBook Pro is booted and running; it’s running within what Apple considers a normal temperature range.


Apple system management firmware is designed to interpret and react to readings from Apple’s fan speed and thermal sensors, and the firmware will take steps to cool down or to potentially power down the hardware for self-preservation, if and when that is necessary.


Apple typically doesn’t document those sensors nor how to interpret the sensor readings, nor does Apple document normal operating ranges.


Processors operating at around 60°C are not particularly unusual, and brief spikes to 80°C have been reported with some Macs.


But again, nobody around here knows the thermal profiles, nor the sensor reading definitions, and Apple doesn’t usually publish that info.


For assistance with interpreting what a third-party app might (claim to) show, please contact the third-party app vendor. And if a third-party app vendor had that range, they’d probably show it. But here we are.


PS: I’d be extremely skeptical about reducing fan speeds and reducing cooling when using any third-party fan-control apps. I would not suggest doing that.

Nov 29, 2024 12:50 PM in response to Shadow322

Shadow322 wrote:

So My macbook doesn't have any problems?


Your Mac is Fine.


Apple manages the running temperatures appropriately.


Think this through.


What happens if that temperature isn’t managed appropriately?


Things overheat and fail, right?


if temperatures are not managed automatically, that’s a whole lot of failing Macs.


Which would be bad.


Computers have been managing their own thermals entirely automatically for at least sixty years.


With a Mac, that’s going to include using the enclosure used for cooling, as well as increasing the fan speeds, as well as throttling activity, as well as a hard shutdown at the limit.


Got concerns about a third-party app, please contact the third-party vendor. Or remove the app.

Nov 29, 2024 7:18 PM in response to Shadow322

Fan speeds fail-safe to maximum speed. Temperatures are measured many times a second at many points inside your Mac (as your App shows you) and cooling (mainly through fan speed) is set based on those measured temperatures, with positive measurement of fan RPMs.


Thinking about temperatures and using software to display this stuff to you is a huge waste of your time. Your computer is designed to automatically cool itself, or if it gets stuck, it shuts itself down.


Your Mac could run all day every day at 60 degrees C and have no damage whatsoever (but I would expect the fans to be running). If the processor temperature approaches 100 degrees C, it may do an uncontrolled power-down to save itself from damage. If it crashes really badly, the fans go to their highest settings.


"You have a Macintosh!"


We expect you to be doing your important work, not worrying about stuff the computer is already tightly controlling.

Get to work.

Nov 29, 2024 3:35 PM in response to John Galt

John Galt wrote:


Shadow322 wrote:

I heard that it would be a good idea to a Temperature monitoring app would be good.

It appears that you have been misled.


To extend that…


Add-on anti-malware apps, add-on coffee-shop VPN apps, add-on cleaner apps, add-on firewall apps, lots of widely-marketed choices that may not or do not appreciably benefit the user, but can enrich the providers; lots of excellent (and variously problematic) choices there, too.


And if somebody wants or needs a computer that they do need to more directly manage and control, there are many fine choices. But even for those choices, the hardware systems almost inevitably include firmware thermal management, as the hardware vendors aren’t fond of paying for hardware repairs or replacements when the user somehow forgets to look at the increasing temperature readings on thermometer and manually increasing the fan speeds. Computers (firmware) are better at managing that.

Nov 29, 2024 4:06 PM in response to Shadow322

And another thing:


So I downloaded TG Pro, a trusted app according to goggle ...


If you trust Google, then you have also been misled.


Basically if you choose place your trust in institutions, you will be exploited by them. You will expose yourself to threats, you will need to replace your Mac prematurely and often, you will be led down a well-trodden path to misery. You will also have plenty of company, commiserating with one another as you plod along that desolate road together.


Or, you can just enjoy your Mac the way Apple designed it to be used. Choose wisely.

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