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Need Family Emojis

Dear [Apple Support/Team],


I am deeply upset and baffled by the removal of family-related emojis in your latest update. A significant percentage of the population has families, and eliminating these emojis creates an imbalance and lacks inclusivity. Families are an integral part of society, and their representation in emojis should not be overlooked.


Additionally, I have noticed that certain emojis, including those representing specific communities, have been prioritized over families. While inclusivity is important, it should encompass all groups, including families, rather than replacing one group with another. If the goal is truly inclusivity, then emojis should represent all people equitably.


Furthermore, I find some of the existing emojis offensive, and I strongly suggest reviewing them for appropriateness. I request that in your next iOS update, you restore the family emojis and carefully reconsider the inclusion of certain others.


Thank you for taking this feedback into consideration. I hope Apple continues to strive for inclusivity and balance in representing all communities equally.




Sincerely,

Loyal Apple Customer.

iPhone 11 Pro Max, iOS 18

Posted on Nov 30, 2024 12:10 PM

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Posted on Nov 30, 2024 12:22 PM

The Unicode Consortium made the decision back in 2015 to make the family groups more inclusive, as those particular emoji didn't have skin color choices.


Apple was just the first to fully implement the change. They've been replace by these silhouette things.


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Nov 30, 2024 12:59 PM in response to nat_ok

This is a user-to-user forum. You are not addressing Apple. The folks that do work for Apple may or may not read postings around here.


Emoji are part of an international standard known as Unicode, and Unicode is intended to address the text communications needs of the roughly eight billion people all sharing this tiny rock hurtling through space.


Apple, Google, Microsoft, and many other vendors implement the Unicode standard.


For emoji, the Unicode consortium decided that the then-current emoji design was headed for an explosion of complexity — quite possibly with more than seven thousand new character sequences needed for the family emoji involved, depending on the design selected — and the committee decided to use a simpler approach.


For an introduction to the complexity:


For more technical details of the implementation:


The appropriate organization for your more general request is the Unicode Emoji committee.


The usual proposal path follows (though your request to edit the existing set is much wider):


Nov 30, 2024 12:51 PM in response to Kurt Lang

It does seem inconsistent, especially since couple emojis and others still offer customizable options. Replacing family emojis with silhouettes feels like a step backward when inclusivity could have been addressed by simply offering skin tone options for family groups, as they’ve done with other emojis. The silhouettes lose the personality and emotion emojis are supposed to convey, which defeats their purpose. It’s definitely disappointing.

Nov 30, 2024 1:14 PM in response to nat_ok

Yes, it does seem somewhat inconsistent. As you mentioned, you can choose individuals and couples with their skin choices, but never for families or other group emoji.


Per MrHoffman, it's at least partly about space. If you still had all of those extra group emoji and added skin color choices, then each skin color requires using up another code point.


While 32,768 sounds like a lot of code points for one font, it's less than a drop in the bucket compared to how objects there are. It's the reason known people aren't allowed. If you put in George Washington, Abraham Lincoln and Dr. Martin Luther King, then where do you stop without someone complaining about being excluded?

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