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Migrating Intel MacBook Pro with Windows 10 and Parallels 19 to M1 MacBook Pro with Windows 11 and Parallels 20

Apple Migration Assistant worked like a champ. I prepared the new MBP by installing Windows11 w/ARM and installed Parallels 20. The migration copied the Windows10.PVM. So far, so good. Now it gets frustrating. Parallels instructions for transferring the data from the Windows10.PVM to the Windows11.PVM is weak at best and Parallels tech support is very poor. After three days of trying to call them, reading their KB articles, checking the forum, and chatting via Messenger I was ready to call their tech support on this matter ... well, useless.


KB125344, line 5 says they will tell you how to "share" the data with the new VM later, but they never do. I asked specifically about this in the messenger chat and their answer was to copy the data from the MBP and paste it on the new (VM) Windows Desktop.


They recommended that I try a different method outlined in KB117649.


Has anyone made a transition from an Intel Windows10 MBP to a M* Windows11 MBP?

For those thinking about it, beware.


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Posted on Dec 10, 2024 2:27 PM

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Posted on Dec 16, 2024 1:52 PM

If a Microsoft Windows PC on Intel x86-64 serves your needs better, best use Windows on Intel. Windows is a fine choice if you need older communications schemes such as fax, or need older apps, or under- or unmaintained apps to work. Windows PCs are particularly good at running those older apps and older protocols, and variously for years past the end of maintenance by the app developers. That’s seemingly the bulk of the Microsoft business-computing market, too.


As for faxing on macOS, there are various facsimile apps available in the app store, or, yes, a multi-function printer can work. iFax Mac is one available option, and here are others.


The “stupid M-chip” is the basis for many of the advantages of the Apple platforms, and Apple is just not going to retrograde to using Intel x86-64 processors.


(Intel is also presently also in some turmoil around their x86-64 processors business, and around their semiconductor fabrication business, but where that all goes?)


(Broadcom VMware made some of their Mac hypervisors free for any use, so testing your particular configurations can potentially be cheaper. VMware also has Apple silicon support. The Parallels hypervisor offers a free 14 day trial, as well.)


How well Microsoft Windows for Arm and the hypervisors work on Apple hardware is up to Microsoft, and up to the hypervisor vendors. Microsoft could undoubtedly get native-boot working too, if they wanted to expend the time and effort involved. The Windows app vendors are however often uninterested in getting their apps to work on Windows for Arm and a hypervisor. For many, if it works on Windows on Intel x86-64, that’s what most will then support.


If you’re not going to run Windows on Intel x86-64 as this all usually expects, best send your feedback to Microsoft, and to the hypervisor vendor(s) in use, and to the app vendors, as well.



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Dec 16, 2024 1:52 PM in response to jlschmidt

If a Microsoft Windows PC on Intel x86-64 serves your needs better, best use Windows on Intel. Windows is a fine choice if you need older communications schemes such as fax, or need older apps, or under- or unmaintained apps to work. Windows PCs are particularly good at running those older apps and older protocols, and variously for years past the end of maintenance by the app developers. That’s seemingly the bulk of the Microsoft business-computing market, too.


As for faxing on macOS, there are various facsimile apps available in the app store, or, yes, a multi-function printer can work. iFax Mac is one available option, and here are others.


The “stupid M-chip” is the basis for many of the advantages of the Apple platforms, and Apple is just not going to retrograde to using Intel x86-64 processors.


(Intel is also presently also in some turmoil around their x86-64 processors business, and around their semiconductor fabrication business, but where that all goes?)


(Broadcom VMware made some of their Mac hypervisors free for any use, so testing your particular configurations can potentially be cheaper. VMware also has Apple silicon support. The Parallels hypervisor offers a free 14 day trial, as well.)


How well Microsoft Windows for Arm and the hypervisors work on Apple hardware is up to Microsoft, and up to the hypervisor vendors. Microsoft could undoubtedly get native-boot working too, if they wanted to expend the time and effort involved. The Windows app vendors are however often uninterested in getting their apps to work on Windows for Arm and a hypervisor. For many, if it works on Windows on Intel x86-64, that’s what most will then support.


If you’re not going to run Windows on Intel x86-64 as this all usually expects, best send your feedback to Microsoft, and to the hypervisor vendor(s) in use, and to the app vendors, as well.



Dec 17, 2024 2:40 AM in response to FritoUSMC

I transferred from Windows 10 on a Macbook Pro to Windows 11 on my M1 Macbook Air in 2021. So far as I recall, I transferred all data using an external drive. This is effectively the only way when going from Intel to ARM. I admit that made a list of Windows applications and reinstalled all of them. Having noted the potential difficulties, I decided to take the option to store all Windows-related data on the Mac side and access it through the Mac Files folder icon that appears on the Windows Desktop if you set the relevant sharing option in Parallels.

So I keep almost no data on the VM, and the Windows files, in applications that cannot run on the Mac, are backed up by Time Machine. (You must exclude the VM from Time Machine backups, as the whole thing will be backed up every time you open it. Always keep a copy of it on an external drive in case something major goes wrong.) Windows-only files open Parallels in the relevant application if you click on them within MacOS. With Bootcamp, for a project in progress using both Windows and Mac software, I had to move the files back and forth, now I find that one can open the same file at the same time in both Mac and Windows. The lack of response from Parallels suggests they may well believe they have answered your questions somewhere.

Dec 16, 2024 1:18 PM in response to FritoUSMC

I made the transition about a year ago, and things were so bad: I had to go back to my "old" MAC Pro which is about 10 years ago. I need Parallels to run WINDOWS for some medical software, and I also need Windows for FAXING.


Faxing through my printer is a less than ideal option. So, for about 10 years, I have used a program called FAX TALK which met my needs.


The NEW MAC PRO has this stupid M-chip -- and, it required me to use Windows 11 in order to use Paraellels, and somehow (at least last year): Windows 11 on an M-chip did NOT support Windows Fax/Scan. NOTE: the program is available in traditional Windows machines, but you have to go into settings to "activate" the program which is NOT an option on the M-Chip Macs. SO, this vital program did not work, and I have "gimped along" with the "old reliable"-- but the old reliable is booting very slowly, so I think that I am going to need to "do something". Besides: Windows will not be supporting Windows 10 in Oct 2025.


You are right: things do not transfer easily. I assume that you went from an Intel chip mac to an M-chip mac.


I was wondering: does anyone else use an M-Chip MAC with Parellels and WIN 11? And if so, now that it has been a year: is there some sort of faxing option with WIN 11 and an M-Chip MacPro?


Dec 19, 2024 6:44 AM in response to jlschmidt

Thanks for your reply. You're right. This Parallels / Intel MBP to M1 MBP migration is an ugly surprise. For now, my short-term solution is to go back to the Intel MBP to get me through the tax season at our doorstep. (I'm a tax guy.) My 2018 MBP was failing during the boot. The team at the Apple store did their best but I agreed to have them send it to AppleCare for repair. The agreed price was $700 to do whatever it took to repair it with a 90-day warranty.


I received it last night. Once shipped, the turnaround was 6 days. I'm completely satisfied. They installed a New Logic Board, i9, 2.9GHz, 32GB, 560X, 4TB, and a new Top Case w/Battery, misc cable, and Touch ID Board.


I start the restore process with a SuperDuper! disk image today. Assuming that goes as planned, I'll upgrade to Parallels 20, install Win11, generate a new Win11 PVM file, move it to the new M1 MBP, and see if it will open it.


Getting the old MBP up and running will give me time to decide on a long-term plan.

Dec 19, 2024 6:59 AM in response to MrHoffman

Mr. Hoffman,

Thank you for your reply. Your comments confirmed my thoughts regarding a long-term solution. I'm a tax practitioner, and the tax software is a Windows app. Their system requirements indicate that I can expect further issues if I try to run their app on a M1 / Parallels / Windows VM.


So, having recently had my 2018 MBP repaired by AppleCare to a "like new" condition was the correct short-term solution. In the future, I will have to get an Intel machine or run the tax software via a hosted solution, which will double my tax software cost.

Dec 19, 2024 7:13 AM in response to John Whittaker

John Whittaker,

Thanks for sharing what you have been through. I've been using Parallels for over 15 years. It's been a nice ride, but unless something changes, I believe it may be coming to an end. What you shared confirms my opinion that this is getting more complicated than it is worth.


My short-term solution has recently been to have the old MBP repaired by AppleCare and continue using it for the following year. I recently purchased a nice MBP M4. I will test it using my Intel app with Parallels and Win11 as time permits. But for now, the pressure is off, and I can resume running my small business with the Intel MBP.

Again, thanks for your input.

Migrating Intel MacBook Pro with Windows 10 and Parallels 19 to M1 MacBook Pro with Windows 11 and Parallels 20

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