Mac Administrator access to another administrator's password database

I am in the process of adding my husband as an administrator on my MacBook Pro (Sequoia 15.1.1) (on which I am an administrator).

I would like to know how my husband could access my Password app database (rather than sharing individual password entries) from his administrator account. I assume this should be possible given that as an administrator, he would have access to all my files.

Please advise.

Thank you.

Anne


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MacBook Pro 15″, macOS 15.1

Posted on Dec 13, 2024 7:51 AM

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Dec 14, 2024 5:14 PM in response to EAnneWard

The back and forth in the thread made it hard to tell how extensively you were trying to sort this sort of thing out - apologies for mis-estimating that. Sounds like you know exactly what you need but the built-in Password app isn't it - which isn't surprising since the baseline expectation Apple has is one-person-one-computer with only limited sharing to other Apple users.


I'd look into a third party app like 1Password, or one of its competitors, that allows the creation of Family Accounts where the Account Owner can assign fine-grained permissions (like being able to access but not change passwords in shared vaults). I know third-party apps isn't necessarily your first choice, but in this case you probably get what you pay for.


Best of luck.

Dec 14, 2024 11:08 AM in response to EAnneWard

As a different Admin user, your husband would be able to read a passwords/keychain file that belongs to you.


However, that file is encrypted, and everything he would read from it would be complete gibberish.


To read the clear-text passwords, he would need your userid and password.


This brings into question exactly how you would like these two user-ids to work. if you are sharing all the passwords. what are you NOT sharing?


¿Would you be better served by just sharing ONE account?

Dec 14, 2024 12:52 PM in response to etresoft

There is a benefit to him having an administrator account of his own (so he can change my account password if needed) and I have an administrator account on his laptop. (I have not yet provided him with an administrator account on my laptop.)

It sounds like the only solution is to :

a) have him use my account, or

b) use a third-party password manager that allows me to share the entire password database securely.

So I guess I am opting for b).

Dec 14, 2024 2:42 PM in response to EAnneWard

EAnneWard wrote:

There is a benefit to him having an administrator account of his own (so he can change my account password if needed)

That probably isn't what you want. While an admin account could change your login password, the account would essentially be broken at that point. It wouldn't have access to the keychain, which would still be encrypted with the old password. And said locked keychain would prevent any access to any iCloud data.

Dec 14, 2024 2:47 PM in response to EAnneWard

While there are certainly technical aspects to what you want - which other have already addressed quite well - those aren't the only considerations.


Banks, for example, tend to take a dim view of password sharing, even amongst spouses given home often they have to deal with collapsing marriages. Most other financial institutions and insurance companies have similar policies in their user agreements - which may also allow for the termination of services if violated (although how often those clauses are actually used is a good question).


At a minimum if you think the chances of having to access each others' passwords due to incapacitation is more than negligible, then I highly recommend appropriate General and Medical Powers of Attorney. I also recommend setting up legacy contacts between each other for major accounts that support that (Apple and Google both do at least).


Of course for banking, assuming you use the same bank, it is easy enough to have separate accounts for you individual money, a joint account for household expenses and have all the money required for the household and all bills in an account that appears in each of your online banking apps without having to share passwords (and anything in the individual accounts for personal funds wouldn't be critical enough to not be able to wait on an in-person exercise of a Power of Attorney at the bank.


I guess what I'm trying to say is, sharing passwords is OK for some things but a poor substitute for proper planning around medical or other life issues.

Dec 14, 2024 11:59 AM in response to Grant Bennet-Alder

My husband prefers to have his own account, and the intent is for him to be able to access my passwords in the event that I become incapacitated.


I would share my "keychain" password/Password app database with him, thereby giving him the ability to log into any of my bank accounts, etc. using the "keychain" Password app entries. (He has his own Password app database on his own laptop.)


In order to do so, how does he access my Password app database? Where is it physically located? (I could export all my passwords to another password manager, but I would much prefer using the Password app in Mac OS X.)


Any suggestions?


Anne

Dec 14, 2024 3:14 PM in response to g_wolfman

I have already added him as my legacy contact as well powers of attorney - that is not the issue. I can accomplish what I need using a different password manager. We DO NOT currently share passwords - he has his own for his banking requirements et al, and I have mine. I did not simply want to give him my laptop password ... the administrator capability was for him to use in a short term situation if I am unable to look after my end of month bills for example.

And the sharing of Passwords through the Password app means 1) has to be done on a password by password basis and 2) that the passwords can be changed without my being aware.

I have a solution, it just does not involve the Password app any longer (will be replacing it to simply my life, and achieve what I would like to achieve).


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