MacBook Pro Battery Replacement Seems Bad - real bad

Since iFixit showed it to be quite involved, with glueing even, for my MacBook Pro (15-inch, 2018), I opted to have a ClickAway certified Apple Tech do the purchase of a replacement battery and doing the replacement.

(Note: Nothing here against ClickAway or the Tech. The Tech actually has a great reputation in town.)


The battery does not seem to be okay. Its condition shows as "Normal," so no bad cells according to Apple? OS Monterey v. 12.7.2. But the behavior right from the start has been flakey. I quickly reported to the Tech what behavior I was seeing.


But first, the battery info:


Battery Information:


Model Information:

Serial Number: C01514309YEF90MA4

Manufacturer: SNSYIY

Device Name: A1953

Pack Lot Code: 3230

PCB Lot Code: 30db

Firmware Version: ddae

Hardware Revision: dac2

Cell Revision: 2b39

Charge Information:

Fully Charged: No

Charging: No

Full Charge Capacity (mAh): 7567

State of Charge (%): 39

Health Information:

Cycle Count: 10

Condition: Normal


I let him know that with only a wired usb-c mouse attached, the power draw down seemed about the same as with my 1000+ cycles Mac Battery that came with the machine, which had declined a bit. But that first evening while it seemed okay - and yes, I planned on doing a number of full down-to-10% charge-up cycles to train the battery - before shutting down at about 60% I got this (your system has run out of application memory) with very little running. (I had never ever gotten that message before.)



I powered down, and the next morning I booted up and the power was at 56%. Then within moments as I curiously looked at the battery conditions and cycles (cycles were 0), that 56% dropped to 48%, and then 29%, all in the time to bring up email via browser. Then 24%, 15%, then 10% - so I hooked up the Apple power supply for charging.


The Tech replied to my email spelling this out saying I might have "stability issues," and that I should be sure to do 4 full rundowns to 10% followed by full recharges... He also said I should upgrade the operating system and free up more hard drive space (which yes, was not healthy at 15GB out of 500GB). So I had been moving large files and even various "libraries" to external SSD drives, but to my mind I'm reluctant to upgrade the OS because that becomes another variable.


I do use the MacBook a lot, and with the old 1000+ cycles older battery it always worked fine. So my logic is that simply a replacement battery shouldn't suddenly make a computer have "stability issues."


I'm up to a cycle count of 10% now, and the first 6 of those cycle were usually from a sudden drop from well above 10% to the panicked notice that "You are at 1%. If you don't connect to power NOW your computer will shut down." (Or however Apple says it up in the right corner.)


The leaps and bounds drops in short order seem to only happen when the battery is down under 50%.


Might this mean this battery was previously used and recharged up to 100% from 50% its first time out? And there's some way to reset the "odometer" on a battery? (Sold as new, this history unbeknownst to my Tech?)


Might this mean this is just a bum battery and has bad cells that the Apple OS can't detect?


Note: No evident "swelling" of the battery at all, which sounds like a really awful thing.


Here are a couple images of Usage, kind of shows the weird drops in short order:


this taken while charging after a quick drop


this showing one of the sudden 1% panic notes


Opinions? Bad battery? Maybe newer replacement batteries need new operating systems?


thx,

Rich Apple (yes, it really is "Apple")

MacBook Pro 15″, macOS 12.7

Posted on Dec 21, 2024 12:26 PM

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Dec 23, 2024 5:38 PM in response to A_G_Padlock

I am taking yours and Mr etresoft at your word that "ClickAway" is not an authorized Apple repair shop. If that Mac has had unauthorized service then Apple will absolutely refuse to service it.


If they are as reputable as you say though, take it back to them and tell them to do it right.


Manufacturer: SNSYIY


For what it's worth I have never seen a Mac with a battery manufactured by such a name.

Dec 24, 2024 6:32 AM in response to A_G_Padlock

if you bought an installed battery from ANYBODY and it ends up dead in a very short time, return the unit to them and ask them to "make it right."


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My story:

I had an Apple store replace the battery in my Wife's computer, and when handing it back after the repair, they pointed out the repair was covered for 90 days. I said I was disappointed with only 90 days, had hoped they would warrant it for at least at least a YEAR.


The technicians repose was interesting. He said that all repairs were warranted for the same length of time, which made everything easier.


Then he blurted out the punchline: "Honestly, if it lasts without serious trouble for 90 days, it will likely last FAR longer. I think you will be fine."

Dec 21, 2024 12:48 PM in response to A_G_Padlock

DON'T run your battery low, unless you really want its overall lifetime to be shorter. it accomplishes nothing constructive. That process was great for Nickel-Cadmium batteries, but those have not been used in Macs in a very long time, if they ever were.


DO charge it overnight -- preferably with the computer completely shut down. Then reset the SMC.

Dec 21, 2024 2:52 PM in response to A_G_Padlock

etresoft - Interesting. I'll click away and check that. Thx. --- Did look again, and he is the "Lead Apple Specialist" at ClickAway in our town. Reputation very good, but they are not on that list...


Hmmmm... And this. Seems even Google AI knows that was bad advice (to exhaust to 10% then recharge 5 times - I said he said 4 in my post. He said 5.). Anyway, the following from Googles (experimental) AI:


No, you should not intentionally let a new MacBook Pro battery drain to 10% before charging it, even during the first few charge cycles; modern lithium-ion batteries, like those in MacBooks, do not require "conditioning" and can be significantly damaged by frequent deep discharges, so it's best to keep them between 20-80% charge whenever possible.


thx again

Dec 23, 2024 5:25 PM in response to A_G_Padlock

Well, the sad update is that though it was behaving okay the last 2 charge cycles (I was going with charge it up when between 30 and 50 percent), it is now dead.

I have the MacBook trained to not boot up when I raise the lid (it just takes a moment then shows the battery charge and goes dark again.)

It was at 38% or something earlier, so shut it down, then connected the Apple charger for it. (Advised to do charging that way and did so the first time, and reset the SMC. Worked okay after that…)

So plugged in the shut down MacBook Pro, we went for a hike, and now it won’t do anything. No report on battery, no starting up with button…

Dead.

Bummer.

Suggestions beyond the obvious? (Apple Genius Bar or whatever they are?)

Dec 23, 2024 8:50 PM in response to John Galt

Well that’s bad news that Apple won’t touch it. I really did assume they were authorized. I’m apprehensive about the clickaway place since the guy’s response to my indicating the battery was whacked, he clearly told me to exhaust the battery all the way down to 10% and charge for the next 5 cycles. A lithium battery. (Stupidly I did what he suggested.)

He seemed incredulous that he may have procured a defective battery… So told me to do what would not be good for the battery?

An update to my update is that the completely dead battery was simply that. I had disconnected the usb-c and reconnected a few times in my trying to start it up. So after I posted I figured to just try disconnecting the charger from the socket along with the disconnected usb-c, then plug both ends in again, and… We heard a blip!

Like I said, just opening the lid when the MacBook is shut down is set to just show the battery charge and not boot up. After the blip, sure enough doing such showed an empty battery at 0. Hours later it is now at just over 50%. Super super slow charging, and I have no idea if or how the battery will behave, but I’m at a cabin in Yosemite, so nothing I can do for a couple weeks anyway. I guess I’ll see what an authorized Apple place says.

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