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Bölümlenmiş Diski Masaüstüne Bağlama (Unutulan Şifre).

Merhabalar.

Disk izlencesinden SSD yi bölümleyerek ayırdım, bir de şifre koydum. Koymaz olaydım!...

Pc yi uyutuyorum sonra tekrar uyandırıp öyle kullanıyorum. Bir gün yeniden başlattım ve karşıma diski masaüstüne bağlamak icin parolanızı girin ekranı geldi. Ben şok!!! Ee uzun süre girmediğim şifreyi de haliyle unuttum, ilk yanlış girişte bilmem kaç saat sonra denemeye atıyor. Win deki SAM dosyası gibi Mac de de bir dosya olmalı ve buna müdahale edebilmeliyiz. Şifreleme algoritmasını da çözemedim. Apple destek de bununla ilgili yapabilecegi birşeyin olmadigini söylüyor (bir anlamda çok iyi). Ne yaptımsa bir türlü açamadım. Verilerim olmasa basacağım formatı ama icindekiler onemli. Parayla satın alınamayan değerdeki veriler...

Böyle durumlar icin Apple in biz kullanıcılarına destek sağlamasi lazım. Her turlu güvenlik testinden geçip Pc nin bize ait olduğunu kanıtladıktan sonra tak tak şifreyi etkisiz hale getirebilir. Sonuçta hersey yazılım yani. Pc bunu bir yerde tutuyor ki bize soruyor, teyitleyip işlem yapıyor. İnsanız sonuçta, sorumluluk bize ait olabilir fakat doğal varlıklarız, makina degiliz ki hafıza değişmesin!

Bu konudaki fikrimin prosedürleri tartışılabilir fakat hakli olduğumu düşünüyorum. Apple a güveniyoruz ama bizi yarı yolda bırakıyor. Lütfen birisi cıksın ve yardımcı olsun...

MacBook Pro 14″

Posted on Jan 1, 2025 4:49 AM

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Jan 2, 2025 1:45 PM in response to mTRc_oLaf

Translation:

mTRc_oLaf wrote:

Mount the partitioned disk to the desktop (forgotten password).

Hi. I partitioned the SSD from the disk utility and put a password. I wouldn't put it in...

I put the pc to sleep, then wake it up again and use it like that. One day, I rebooted and I was presented with the Enter your password screen to connect the disk to the desktop. I'm shocked!! Well, I forgot the password that I did not enter for a long time, I don't know how many hours after the first wrong login. Like the SAM file on Win, there should be a file on the Mac and we should be able to intervene in it. I couldn't figure out the encryption algorithm either. Apple support also says that there is nothing it can do about it (in a sense, it is very good). Whatever I did, I couldn't open it. If I didn't have the data, I would print the format, but what's inside is important. Data of value that cannot be bought with money...

For such cases, Apple needs to provide support to us, its users. After passing all kinds of security tests and proving that the PC belongs to us, it can disable the plug-and-plug password. After all, everything is software. The PC keeps it somewhere so that it asks us, confirms and takes action. After all, we are human, we may be responsible, but we are natural beings, not machines, so that memory does not change!

The procedures for my opinion on this matter are debatable, but I think I am right. We trust Apple, but it lets us down. Someone please come out and help...

Apple has no way to unlock an encrypted drive. Period. It would not be very safe encryption if anyone could unlock an encrypted drive without knowing the password or recovery key. It is up to the user to remember their passwords and to carefully store their recovery keys.


The second issue is that you don't seem to have any backups. If the data is important, then you should have good backups of that data. Apple provides Time Machine for free with macOS in order to make it very easy for users to backup their computer and external drives. Plus there are third party options as well although they are not necessarily free. iCloud is not a backup.


One way to help you recall passwords is by not saving them automatically in the KeyChain or Passwords app. This way you will be prompted for the password each time you reconnect the encrypted drive (I'm not sure what happens if you just leave the encrypted drive mounted all the time & wake the system from sleep).


You may want to write down your password & recovery key in a notebook and keep that notebook locked in a fire proof safe.


I'm sorry, but if you don't know the password and don't have the recovery key, then you will need to erase the drive in order to keep using it. If you have backup copies of the data, then you can restore the data from your backups.

Erase and reformat a storage device in Disk Utility on Mac - Apple Support



Jan 2, 2025 8:55 PM in response to mTRc_oLaf

Translation:


mTRc_oLaf wrote:

Dear HWTech, Thank you for your response, but I guess you don't understand the seriousness of putting a password in the section I mentioned and not writing this password anywhere and keeping it. I don't want to prolong the topic.

There is one thing I want to point out, and I say it stubbornly again; If the encryption is said to be so strong and never opened, how is it that a third-party application called StellarDataRecovery can get inside my encrypted partition that I can't even connect to my desktop and give me information? If you don't believe it, I can prove it.

In the meantime, there is an alternative way to everything, except death.

@Grant is correct.


Or you did save the password in the KeyChain/Passwords app and the drive is automatically unlocked for you at least when using that computer. If you connect that drive to another computer, then perhaps you will be prompted for a password to unlock it if the drive is encrypted.


Here is an Apple article regarding the macOS KeyChain (I'm linking the macOS Sonoma version since Apple has changed its behavior in macOS Sequoia):

What is Keychain Access on Mac? - Apple Support


Unfortunately we don't have enough details and the translations can contribute to some confusion & misunderstandings here. You may want to visit an Apple Store or an Apple Authorized Service Provider for assistance in case we are missing something here regarding your issue since they can see the system behavior first hand which I think may be needed here.


Edit: Or perhaps your drive has some file system corruption. You can try running Disk Utility First Aid on the physical drive as well as the hidden APFS Container (if using the APFS file system) or on the partition/volume if using some other file system. Within Disk Utility you may need to click "View" and select "Show All Devices" before the physical drive and hidden APFS Containers appear on the left pane of Disk Utility.


Even if the First Aid summary says everything is "Ok", click "Show Details" and scroll through the report to see if any errors are listed. If errors are listed, then run First Aid again until the errors are gone. If the errors remain after several scans, then you will likely need to erase the physical drive & restore the data from a backup assuming the drive does not have a hardware issue.

Jan 2, 2025 2:38 PM in response to HWTech

Sayın HWTech,

yanıtınız için teşekkür ederim fakat siz bahsettiğim bölüme şifre koymanın ve bu şifreyi her hangi bir yere yazıp saklamamanın ciddiyetini anlamamışsınız sanırım. Konuyu uzatmak istemiyorum.

Belirtmek istediğim bir şey var ve bunu inatla yine söylüyorum; madem şifreleme çok sağlam ve asla açılmaz deniyor peki StellarDataRecovery adli üçüncü taraf bir uygulama nasıl oluyor da benim masaüstüne bile bağlayamadığım şifrelenmiş bölümümün içine girip bana bilgi verebiliyor? İnanmıyorsanız ispatlayabilirim.

Bu arada her şeyin alternatif bir yolu vardir, ölüm haric...

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