Will apple intelligence work with Chinese Apple ID and US bought iPhone?

sohnenblume wrote:

Opinions need to go thru arguments to become facts, especially when it contradicts with official announcements.

There is NO opinion being shared with you. Contained in the following Apple Support Article about how to get Apple Intelligence --> How to get Apple Intelligence - Apple Support (CA), is the following:

For China Residents

Apple Intelligence will not currently work for supported devices purchased in China mainland. For supported devices purchased outside of China mainland, Apple Intelligence will not currently work if you are in China mainland and if your Apple Account Country/Region is also in China mainland.

When Apple Intelligence is available in the EU or China mainland, previously purchased devices that support Apple Intelligence will be able to activate and use it in that region.

Apple has made it pretty clear that if your region is Mainland China, you can't use Apple Intelligence.

If the Apple document isn't enough, it would be advisable for you to contact Apple Support directly. Since you are in the US, you can call Apple at: 800-MY-APPLE

We don’t know if or when Apple Intelligence will be supported in Mainland China. ChatGPT isn’t available in China, so I’m guessing that they will have to find a different AI model that is supported there.

sohnenblume wrote:

You just restated your opinion, which I already understood. I just don’t get why, because the article says otherwise.

I am rather stating facts. You say you cannot use Apple Intelligence, and I have told you why.

lobsterghost1 wrote:

sohnenblume wrote:

Opinions need to go thru arguments to become facts, especially when it contradicts with official announcements.

There is NO opinion being shared with you. Contained in the following Apple Support Article about how to get Apple Intelligence --> How to get Apple Intelligence - Apple Support (CA), is the following:

For China Residents

Apple Intelligence will not currently work for supported devices purchased in China mainland. For supported devices purchased outside of China mainland, Apple Intelligence will not currently work if you are in China mainland and if your Apple Account Country/Region is also in China mainland.

When Apple Intelligence is available in the EU or China mainland, previously purchased devices that support Apple Intelligence will be able to activate and use it in that region.

Apple has made it pretty clear that if your region is Mainland China, you can't use Apple Intelligence.

If the Apple document isn't enough, it would be advisable for you to contact Apple Support directly. Since you are in the US, you can call Apple at: 800-MY-APPLE

I literally already stated in my second reply that my interpretation of the exact sentence you've marked from the article leads to my opinion that this article makes it pretty clear that I can use it. Attached below:

The article states that it will not currently work if <condition 1> "if you are in China" AND <condition 2> "if your apple account country/region is also in China mainland". Since they are not in China, condition 1 is not satisfied, then condition 1 and condition 2 is not satisfied. Therefore, it should work?

It would be advisable for you to argue why my interpretation is wrong and your interpretation is correct. I would also advise that, both of you just quoted the article and stated your interpretation, and just subsequently said it is obvious and clear, while I also quoted the article, but then made logical arguments, and then stated my interpretation. It would be effective for you to point out what is wrong with the arguments. Since you didn't provide arguments to back up your interpretation, unfortunately I cannot counterargue, but just restate my argument instead.

Zachyy wrote:

sohnenblume wrote:

Why does that indicate "both"?

The article states that it will not currently work if <condition 1> "if you are in China" AND <condition 2> "if your apple account country/region is also in China mainland". Since they are not in China, condition 1 is not satisfied, then condition 1 and condition 2 is not satisfied. Therefore, it should work?

I should clarify myself, if your device is intended for sale within Mainland China, you will currently not have Apple Intelligence.

I am sorry but I don't get it. The author (and I) are facing a problem that is:

1. Phone's purchased outside of China;
2. Phone's currently outside of China;
3. Apple account is Chinese.

Based on the rules stated in the article, we should have Apple Intelligence available. I couldn't understand what they have to do with the "intension for sale within Mainland China".

Zachyy wrote:

sohnenblume wrote:

Zachyy wrote:

sohnenblume wrote:

Why does that indicate "both"?

The article states that it will not currently work if <condition 1> "if you are in China" AND <condition 2> "if your apple account country/region is also in China mainland". Since they are not in China, condition 1 is not satisfied, then condition 1 and condition 2 is not satisfied. Therefore, it should work?

I should clarify myself, if your device is intended for sale within Mainland China, you will currently not have Apple Intelligence.

1. I am sorry but I don't get it. The author (and I) are facing a problem that is:

Phone's purchased outside of China;

2. Phone's currently outside of China;

3. Apple account is Chinese.

Based on the rules stated in the article, we should have Apple Intelligence available. I couldn't understand what they have to do with the "intension for sale within Mainland China".

If your Apple Account is set to Mainland China as the country/region, you will not have Apple Intelligence. I should have been more clear.

You are clear about your opinion. Let me be more clear:

• Your opinion is that: if the apple account is in mainland China, no Apple Intelligence;
• My interpretation of the article is that: even if the apple account is in mainland China, but if the phone is purchased outside of China, and the phone is not in China, then AI should be available.
  • Because for a phone purchased outside of China to not have AI, both condition 1 and also condition 2 will have to be satisfied. Now, even if condition 2 satisfies, condition 1 does not.

Therefore, I think your opinion contradicts with what the article is saying. It would be so kind of you if you can explain why I am wrong in this regard.

yilun136 wrote:

Yeah I get that ChatGPT is not available in China, but I’m currently in the U.S., and the device was purchased in the U.S. I’m wondering if support is determined by the device’s region or the Apple ID’s region.

Both. As stated in the support article you provided, Apple Intelligence will not currently work if you are in China mainland and if your Apple Account country/region is also in China mainland.

Why does that indicate "both"?

The article states that it will not currently work if <condition 1> "if you are in China" AND <condition 2> "if your apple account country/region is also in China mainland". Since they are not in China, condition 1 is not satisfied, then condition 1 and condition 2 is not satisfied. Therefore, it should work?

sohnenblume wrote:

Why does that indicate "both"?

The article states that it will not currently work if <condition 1> "if you are in China" AND <condition 2> "if your apple account country/region is also in China mainland". Since they are not in China, condition 1 is not satisfied, then condition 1 and condition 2 is not satisfied. Therefore, it should work?

I should clarify myself, if your device is intended for sale within Mainland China, you will currently not have Apple Intelligence.

sohnenblume wrote:

Zachyy wrote:

sohnenblume wrote:

Why does that indicate "both"?

The article states that it will not currently work if <condition 1> "if you are in China" AND <condition 2> "if your apple account country/region is also in China mainland". Since they are not in China, condition 1 is not satisfied, then condition 1 and condition 2 is not satisfied. Therefore, it should work?

I should clarify myself, if your device is intended for sale within Mainland China, you will currently not have Apple Intelligence.

1. I am sorry but I don't get it. The author (and I) are facing a problem that is:

Phone's purchased outside of China;

2. Phone's currently outside of China;

3. Apple account is Chinese.

Based on the rules stated in the article, we should have Apple Intelligence available. I couldn't understand what they have to do with the "intension for sale within Mainland China".

If your Apple Account is set to Mainland China as the country/region, you will not have Apple Intelligence. I should have been more clear.

sohnenblume wrote:

Zachyy wrote:

sohnenblume wrote:

Zachyy wrote:

sohnenblume wrote:

Why does that indicate "both"?

The article states that it will not currently work if <condition 1> "if you are in China" AND <condition 2> "if your apple account country/region is also in China mainland". Since they are not in China, condition 1 is not satisfied, then condition 1 and condition 2 is not satisfied. Therefore, it should work?

I should clarify myself, if your device is intended for sale within Mainland China, you will currently not have Apple Intelligence.

1. I am sorry but I don't get it. The author (and I) are facing a problem that is:

Phone's purchased outside of China;

2. Phone's currently outside of China;

3. Apple account is Chinese.

Based on the rules stated in the article, we should have Apple Intelligence available. I couldn't understand what they have to do with the "intension for sale within Mainland China".

If your Apple Account is set to Mainland China as the country/region, you will not have Apple Intelligence. I should have been more clear.

• You are clear about your opinion. Let me be more clear:

Your opinion is that: if the apple account is in mainland China, no Apple Intelligence;

My interpretation of the article is that: even if the apple account is in mainland China, but if the phone is purchased outside of China, and• the phone is not in China, then AI should be available.

Because for a phone purchased outside of China to not have AI, both condition 1 and also• condition 2 will have to be satisfied. Now, even if condition 2 satisfies, condition 1 does not.

Therefore, I think your opinion contradicts with what the article is saying. It would be so kind of you if you can explain why I am wrong in this regard.

If your device was purchased in Mainland China, you will not have Apple Intelligence.

If your device was not purchased in Mainland China, you must not be in Mainland China and your Apple Account country/region must not be set to Mainland China, to use Apple Intelligence.

Since as you state your Apple Account country/region is set to Mainland China, you will not have Apple Intelligence.

I have no intention of arguing anything with you. Apple makes it pretty clear why. If you don't like the answers you've been given by either of us, argue your point with Apple directly.

I'm pretty sure Apple will tell you that you can't use Apple intelligence as long as your iPhone's region is set to China.

Create a new apple account id for use while you are in the US.

You just restated your opinion, which I already understood. I just don’t get why, because the article says otherwise.