Concerned my iPhone 16 has a key logger

What’s the best way to know if you have any key loggers, roots added etc on an iPhone 16?

iPhone 16, iOS 18

Posted on Feb 1, 2025 9:22 PM

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Posted on Feb 2, 2025 10:53 AM

None of this is happening. Trying to directly access just ONE non-jailbroken iPhone costs a bare minimum of $100,000.


Unless you have data that is only on your phone that is worth that much to someone, you are not a target, and you have not been hacked.


And get rid of the VPN. It's useless.


Public VPNs are anything but private.


A VPN can do absolutely nothing to hide any data going between you and the site you're viewing since only half of the communication is encrypted. Anything going to the site from the VPN and back to it is in the clear, or the site you're accessing would have no idea what to do with the encrypted data.


A VPN has only two uses:


1. You're using it to send and receive content from a truly tunneled VPN at your place of employment. Only the servers at the office get the unencrypted data from you as output from the VPN. Anything coming back to you is encrypted. Meaning, anyone trying to capture data between you and the office will only ever see encrypted data. A hacker would have to somehow breach the business' server on the clear input/output side, or your end to get anything.


2. You're trying to hide yourself. Since a VPN encrypts what's coming back to you, it does a good job at hiding what IP address the data is going back to (and as the link above mentions, even this doesn't do a good job of hiding you anymore). However, any and all VPNs log this data. If you do anything illegal and law enforcement tracks the clear data back to the VPN (and they can), they'll demand log data to see what IP address the data was output to. The site running the VPN will give you up. They aren't going to go to jail for what you do.


Free VPNs sell your data (just one of many sites explaining this)


This isn't exactly breaking news. It's been known for a very long time that free VPN's (in particular) log and sell your data. How else do you think they pay for their servers?


It's the same model as Google, and in particular, Chrome. You are the product. Chrome runs a background daemon from the moment you turn your computer on, whether Chrome itself is running or not. Its job is to constantly send anonymized data back to Google about your web and personal computer usage.


No matter what web site you're communicating with, only what you send to the VPN and it sends back to you is encrypted. Every bit of data out of the VPN to the site you're visiting, and from there back to the VPN is the same as using no VPN at all. It has to be, or the sites you're visiting would just get a load of encrypted data they can't do anything with. NordVPN has recently been sued for deceptive practices by making it nearly impossible to unsubscribe


VPN reviews you find online are also almost completely untrustworthy:


Former Malware Distributor Kape Technologies Now Owns ExpressVPN, CyberGhost, Private Internet Access, Zenmate, and a Collection of VPN “Review” Websites


And in the modern internet world, you don’t need a VPN anyway. Most web sites now use HTTPS (secure communication). When you connect to such a site, a one-time use encryption key is generated between your browser and the site. All communication for that site is then already encrypted. A VPN does nothing but uselessly encrypt the encryption. It varies with the browser you’re using, but Safari indicates a secure connection with a small icon of a lock by the URL of the site.


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Feb 2, 2025 10:53 AM in response to Dutch4ga199

None of this is happening. Trying to directly access just ONE non-jailbroken iPhone costs a bare minimum of $100,000.


Unless you have data that is only on your phone that is worth that much to someone, you are not a target, and you have not been hacked.


And get rid of the VPN. It's useless.


Public VPNs are anything but private.


A VPN can do absolutely nothing to hide any data going between you and the site you're viewing since only half of the communication is encrypted. Anything going to the site from the VPN and back to it is in the clear, or the site you're accessing would have no idea what to do with the encrypted data.


A VPN has only two uses:


1. You're using it to send and receive content from a truly tunneled VPN at your place of employment. Only the servers at the office get the unencrypted data from you as output from the VPN. Anything coming back to you is encrypted. Meaning, anyone trying to capture data between you and the office will only ever see encrypted data. A hacker would have to somehow breach the business' server on the clear input/output side, or your end to get anything.


2. You're trying to hide yourself. Since a VPN encrypts what's coming back to you, it does a good job at hiding what IP address the data is going back to (and as the link above mentions, even this doesn't do a good job of hiding you anymore). However, any and all VPNs log this data. If you do anything illegal and law enforcement tracks the clear data back to the VPN (and they can), they'll demand log data to see what IP address the data was output to. The site running the VPN will give you up. They aren't going to go to jail for what you do.


Free VPNs sell your data (just one of many sites explaining this)


This isn't exactly breaking news. It's been known for a very long time that free VPN's (in particular) log and sell your data. How else do you think they pay for their servers?


It's the same model as Google, and in particular, Chrome. You are the product. Chrome runs a background daemon from the moment you turn your computer on, whether Chrome itself is running or not. Its job is to constantly send anonymized data back to Google about your web and personal computer usage.


No matter what web site you're communicating with, only what you send to the VPN and it sends back to you is encrypted. Every bit of data out of the VPN to the site you're visiting, and from there back to the VPN is the same as using no VPN at all. It has to be, or the sites you're visiting would just get a load of encrypted data they can't do anything with. NordVPN has recently been sued for deceptive practices by making it nearly impossible to unsubscribe


VPN reviews you find online are also almost completely untrustworthy:


Former Malware Distributor Kape Technologies Now Owns ExpressVPN, CyberGhost, Private Internet Access, Zenmate, and a Collection of VPN “Review” Websites


And in the modern internet world, you don’t need a VPN anyway. Most web sites now use HTTPS (secure communication). When you connect to such a site, a one-time use encryption key is generated between your browser and the site. All communication for that site is then already encrypted. A VPN does nothing but uselessly encrypt the encryption. It varies with the browser you’re using, but Safari indicates a secure connection with a small icon of a lock by the URL of the site.


Feb 2, 2025 12:23 PM in response to Dutch4ga199

If items on your phone are changing (photos being deleted, contacts changed/added/removed), or other such things, then someone else knows your Apple ID and password. With that information they can login as you from any other device and see all of the same iCloud synced data you do. They can also then do whatever they want to it, the same as you.


Go to Settings. Tap on your name at the top. Scroll to the bottom. Are there are they any devices listed you don't recognize?

Feb 2, 2025 6:42 AM in response to muguy

I didn’t jailbreak it. I hardly knew anything about my phone until this started in mid October. I found an article by Servco “Broken Window” about mirroring and it was a 15 Seqouia a iPhone 16 and something else and someone was able to get peoples personal info and on my laptop around that time my laptop has McAfee and I was able to gather it was coming from just what they said. As far as I know Apple hasn’t fixed it. But how does people still keep getting into my phone and being able to do and access whatever?

Feb 2, 2025 1:15 PM in response to Kurt Lang

So it’s telling me that I’ve reached the max amount of Apple ids yet I can still log into APPS, here and the others just not iCloud. So how do I go about getting the others removed? I think that they did get my info to one of the IDs but there is probably one I’m not aware of. I’m certain that if I can get rid of the other 3 I’ll be good to go, you think? The only thing is last night I read a release from Servco “Broken Mirror” and the info was spot on concerning how my phone was acting. That was mid October, same time. It had to do with Mirror from a macOS sequoia and an iPhone 16 updated to 18 like mine. As of now, I don’t believe Apple has patched that or fixed it

Feb 2, 2025 1:40 PM in response to Dutch4ga199

There is indeed a limit on how many devices can be attached to a single user ID. Five per year. After that, you have to release at least one of them to add a different device.


But anyway, it sure sounds like multiple people are "sharing" your account. Or, one person with multiple devices. Either way, they don't belong there.


Go to:


icloud.com


Login with your ID and password. Hopefully, the other user(s) haven't changed it, locking you out.


If you can get in, tap on the generic human icon towards the top right and tap Manage Apple Account. This will open a new page.


The very first thing to do is change the password to something that is not easy to guess. Immediately follow that by clicking one the Devices link.


Tap on each device that isn't yours. In the window that appears, tap Remove from account.


For each device you do own, you'll need to logout and log back in with the new password.

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