i want to switch my maps back to gulf of mexico
I don’t want my map showing this farce of gulf of America. I’d like it to show the correct name, Gulf of Mexico. I’d like to change it back?
iPhone XR, iOS 16
I don’t want my map showing this farce of gulf of America. I’d like it to show the correct name, Gulf of Mexico. I’d like to change it back?
iPhone XR, iOS 16
Lawrence Finch wrote:
It’s not actually even the middle; the US “owns” less than half of the gulf; about 45%. The balance is divided between Mexico and Cuba (and a couple of small countries).
In the government's defence, the executive order clearly describes this, "rename as the “Gulf of America” the U.S. Continental Shelf area bounded on the northeast, north, and northwest by the States of Texas, Louisiana, Mississippi, Alabama and Florida and extending to the seaward boundary with Mexico and Cuba in the area formerly named as the Gulf of Mexico."
This next sentence is interesting too, "The Secretary shall subsequently update the GNIS to reflect the renaming of the Gulf and remove all references to the Gulf of Mexico from the GNIS, consistent with applicable law."
You can lookup these features on the GNIS. This is clearly a US-centric database. It ignores the rest of the world. When I search for "Bay of Fundy", I get a result that is most definitely NOT the Bay of Fundy.
But of all the ultimate ironies here, if you check the actual continental shelf on the US government's own Continental Shelf project and compare that to the actual label position of "Gulf of America" on both Google Maps and Apple Maps, you can see that both Google and Apple have done it wrong. They are both labelling the Gulf of Mexico as the Gulf of America. By that I mean the actual label position is just outside of the boundary of the Gulf of America.
But of course, everyone is trying to make a political point by virtue signalling how much they don't like President Trump. That's a total waste of time. Anyone who has actually read the executive order, and can read a map, can make a strong geographic point that both Google and Apple have labelled the map incorrectly. Now this is not the Google Support Community, so I don't care about Google. How should it look in Apple Maps?
Well, we can start by looking at how the US government itself labels the map. Don't bother checking the GNIS. They have a note stating they haven't fixed it yet. But we can check that State Department site above. This is what their map looks like:
This is correct, folks! For all the trash talk of the US government, they actually can read their own laws and a map. Go figure.
But Apple needs our help. We can overlay the correct government map on top of Apple Maps to see the problem:
This is how it should be labelled on Apple Maps:
(This is just an example. My labels aren't correct either but I'm constrained by transparency and other labels. But this is the right idea.)
If anyone wants to file a bug report citing this correct geographical information, you have my full support.
DieselkW wrote:
Easy Peasy
A couple of things you forgot to mention:
Change your Apple Account country or region - Apple Support
And finally, don't forget that fraudulently entering your current residency is a violation of the Terms of Use for your Apple Account. Many users who attempted to change their region during the brief TikTok ban found out that there Apple Account had been locked and they were forced to create a new account, losing all data including the iCloud Backup from the previous Apple Account. It can happen at any time, so just be prepared. If you think Apple does not know your location because you are using a VPN, you would be wrong.
The map used by Apple and Google is produced by the US Geological Survey, an agency of the US government, who followed legitimate instructions from the President of the United States to change it. The solution is political, not technical. Contact your representatives, and/or work to elect people who better represent your views. And if you think this is the most serious problem facing us you haven’t been paying attention. Learn to pick your fights.
MYOBFLOTUS wrote:
Cannot do this. They have turned off this option. Apple do better. Your customers outside of the USA should not have to have bear witness to this type of idiocy for the next four years
Ah, yet another who didn’t bother to read any of the thread they posted to.
srinath150 wrote:
If I knew this earlier I would have bought a Samsung phone.
Don't be ridiculous, they had the Gulf of America showing 6 days ago, even before Apple Maps. You didn't really research that one before posting. In fact that is true for all Android phones using Google Maps.
Lawrence Finch wrote:
Yes, if you change your region to Canada (or Mexico) that would work.
It will not. Canada is now "True North, Strong and even more Free". We're currently digging out of a 50 cm snowfall so we can make it to the airport for our trips to the Gulf of America.
Lalette wrote:
Have you had any of the problems that Apple says we will have if you change regions? Payments and subscriptions not working?
As always, to change regions, you need to:
Geoffreyfromma wrote:
i want to switch my maps back to gulf of mexico
The only way to do that is to contact your congresscritters and senators and tell them that they must pass a law changing the name back. Apple has no control over the official US maps that Apple and Google use.
edgardo287 wrote:
I WANT THE CORRECT NAME WHICH IS GULF OF MEXICO, (NOT GULF OF AMERICA).
I WANT CHOCOLATE PUDDING. AND ICE CREAM.
Seriously, did you read the thread before posting? Do you think that by shouting at us, your fellow users, anything is going to change?
Submit feedback using the link provided in earlier posts. Write to your elected representatives.
Lawrence Finch wrote:
So in a way the renaming is the US recognizing that “America” is not a country, it is a geographic area, and the residents of the United States are not Americans, they are USAans.
I've always been annoyed by the lack of a sensible demonym for people in my country. "USAans" sounds like an alien race from Star Trek. It's actually an improvement.
IdrisSeabright wrote:
Lawrence Finch wrote:
So in a way the renaming is the US recognizing that “America” is not a country, it is a geographic area, and the residents of the United States are not Americans, they are USAans.
I've always been annoyed by the lack of a sensible demonym for people in my country. "USAans" sounds like an alien race from Star Trek. It's actually an improvement.
Frank Lloyd Wright created a prefab metal house that he called “Usonian.” https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usonia
IdrisSeabright wrote:
I WANT CHOCOLATE PUDDING. AND ICE CREAM.
Well, you would have to come and visit. We make both chocolate and vanilla pudding and various ice creams (vanilla, pistachio, chocolate, ginger and cinnamon) from scratch (well, from milk, cream, eggs and flavorings).
If you're win the United States it is already displayed the correct way as the name has been changed by the USGS. If you are outside of the US, you'll see the older name. Correct is, of course, relative. This is true for many place names on maps throughout the world.
travelingwoman333 wrote:
From Wikipedia: "While the Interior Department confirmed that the Gulf of America name was effective for US federal agencies on January 24th, the change does not apply in an international context. Other countries and international bodies are not required to recognize the name change."
Correct, and US Geological Survey (USGS) is the US Federal Agency that provides maps to Apple and Google.
What the article doesn’t mention is that any news media that don’t use Gulf of America are excluded from any government press conferences.
IdrisSeabright wrote:
betaneptune wrote:
MapQuest still calls it "Gulf of Mexico".
And I care...why? I don't use MapQuest. And, in the large picture of current affairs, this is all very un-important.
Guess what? Why should I care if you don't care? I actually don't. I was making an informational remark. If you don't care, move on. Another informational remark. BTW, the post is on-topic, so find another thread.
travelingwoman333 wrote:
From Wikipedia
Wikipedia is not an authoritative reference.
However, Wikipedia does sometimes include better references. In this case, the cited article links to this publication from the Congressional Research Service where it says:
the E.O. would not require private company applications, such as Google Maps and Apple Maps, to adopt the changed names
However, Lawrence Finch makes probably the most important point. Continued usage of the old name would be a sign of disrespect, which is not appreciated, especially by the powerful. In other social media circles, this kind of purposeful use of an obsolete, given name is called "deadnaming" and is universally considered an insult, both by those who feel insulted and those who use it for that purpose.
I wonder if I'm the only one who sees the irony of so many people complaining when Apple tries (and fails) to stand up to the EU in order to protect its users from harmful apps. But in this case, people are upset that Apple isn't standing up to the US over something completely inconsequential to Apple's business and users.
All that being said, Wikipedia is a great resource to find out about other interesting events, such as the first controversy of the "Gulf of America". If you follow the links in that article, you can read about other examples of this same kind of renaming for geopolitical reasons.
The only thing that is unusual in this case is so many people demanding that an electronics company take a stand against a democratically elected government over a label on a map. While it is unusual, it isn't fooling anybody. Everyone knows that people are just upset that their candidate lost the election. It's fine to be upset, but this is the wrong venue for expressing discontent. If this is the extent of people's efforts to protest, organize, and retake political power in the US, then the Gulf of America isn't due to be renamed for a long, long time. 😄
i want to switch my maps back to gulf of mexico