i want to switch my maps back to gulf of mexico
I don’t want my map showing this farce of gulf of America. I’d like it to show the correct name, Gulf of Mexico. I’d like to change it back?
iPhone XR, iOS 16
I don’t want my map showing this farce of gulf of America. I’d like it to show the correct name, Gulf of Mexico. I’d like to change it back?
iPhone XR, iOS 16
Lawrence Finch wrote:
It’s not actually even the middle; the US “owns” less than half of the gulf; about 45%. The balance is divided between Mexico and Cuba (and a couple of small countries).
In the government's defence, the executive order clearly describes this, "rename as the “Gulf of America” the U.S. Continental Shelf area bounded on the northeast, north, and northwest by the States of Texas, Louisiana, Mississippi, Alabama and Florida and extending to the seaward boundary with Mexico and Cuba in the area formerly named as the Gulf of Mexico."
This next sentence is interesting too, "The Secretary shall subsequently update the GNIS to reflect the renaming of the Gulf and remove all references to the Gulf of Mexico from the GNIS, consistent with applicable law."
You can lookup these features on the GNIS. This is clearly a US-centric database. It ignores the rest of the world. When I search for "Bay of Fundy", I get a result that is most definitely NOT the Bay of Fundy.
But of all the ultimate ironies here, if you check the actual continental shelf on the US government's own Continental Shelf project and compare that to the actual label position of "Gulf of America" on both Google Maps and Apple Maps, you can see that both Google and Apple have done it wrong. They are both labelling the Gulf of Mexico as the Gulf of America. By that I mean the actual label position is just outside of the boundary of the Gulf of America.
But of course, everyone is trying to make a political point by virtue signalling how much they don't like President Trump. That's a total waste of time. Anyone who has actually read the executive order, and can read a map, can make a strong geographic point that both Google and Apple have labelled the map incorrectly. Now this is not the Google Support Community, so I don't care about Google. How should it look in Apple Maps?
Well, we can start by looking at how the US government itself labels the map. Don't bother checking the GNIS. They have a note stating they haven't fixed it yet. But we can check that State Department site above. This is what their map looks like:
This is correct, folks! For all the trash talk of the US government, they actually can read their own laws and a map. Go figure.
But Apple needs our help. We can overlay the correct government map on top of Apple Maps to see the problem:
This is how it should be labelled on Apple Maps:
(This is just an example. My labels aren't correct either but I'm constrained by transparency and other labels. But this is the right idea.)
If anyone wants to file a bug report citing this correct geographical information, you have my full support.
MimiAimee wrote:
Me too! I tried to dump the app and just use WAZE and HERE WE GO, but Apple works with my car. How can we make Apple see that we think this is STUPIDITY!?!?!? How about the price of eggs huh?
Apple does not control the price of eggs. For both complaints, contact your Congressional Representatives, they not only have the power to change the USGS database where both Apple and Google gets their map information, but are also responsible to representing your interests. You are also responsible for choosing the Representative that best reflects your views. Are they working for you and doing what you expect them to be doing?
Me too! I tried to dump the app and just use WAZE and HERE WE GO, but Apple works with my car. How can we make Apple see that we think this is STUPIDITY!?!?!? How about the price of eggs huh?
kystorm wrote:
I concur. At best the Gulf of Mexico could only rightfully be called the Gulf of America for only 12 miles out to sea. The rest of the gulf is known worldwide as the Gulf of Mexico. I am so disappointed that Apple is that afraid of Trump.
As IdrisSeabright said earlier today, it amazes me that, of all the things one could be upset about right now, this is the thing some people fixate on. This is a mere distraction.
I concur. At best the Gulf of Mexico could only rightfully be called the Gulf of America for only 12 miles out to sea. The rest of the gulf is known worldwide as the Gulf of Mexico. I am so disappointed that Apple is that afraid of Trump.
IdrisSeabright wrote:
It amazes me that, of all the things one could be upset about right now, this is the thing some people fixate on. This is a mere distraction.
+1
Especially when it is something that they probably had never seen using Maps unless they were to zoom out enough to show the entire North America. Not something I have ever needed to do when looking for someplace to eat or to get driving directions to some place I am going.
It is almost like everything else that is happening that will have a financial impact on their pocket book is fine, but changing a label on map that is never seen is the problem everyone should be concerned about. Hey everyone, look over here while you put that $10 a dozen eggs into your basket!
Ecwalkernc wrote:
I’m using old fashioned Mapquest until they change it back permanently foe everyone per UN map guidelines!
The UN map guidelines are, as far as I know, guidelines for how to make maps that are produced by the UN. Individual countries make their own maps and their own decision about what to name things.
Other bodies of water that have different names depending on who makes the map: Persian Gulf/Arabian Sea, Sea of Japan/East Sea, English Channel/La Manche.
It amazes me that, of all the things one could be upset about right now, this is the thing some people fixate on. This is a mere distraction.
Ecwalkernc wrote:
I’m using old fashioned Mapquest until they change it back permanently foe everyone per UN map guidelines!
Why do you think anyone here cares about your personal decisions?
I’m using old fashioned Mapquest until they change it back permanently foe everyone per UN map guidelines!
CAnderson505 wrote:
This is the fix! Just have to go back into those same settings to get back to Fahrenheit, Imperial Units, and the date format of choice!! Thank you!
No, it isn’t the fix. There is no fix.
trish1247 wrote:
I want to switch my maps back to Gulf of Mexico!
A little late to the game. Do you ever have maps zoomed out enough to even see it? I can honestly say in my daily use of the Maps app, it has never been visible.
I want to switch my maps back to Gulf of Mexico!
This is the fix! Just have to go back into those same settings to get back to Fahrenheit, Imperial Units, and the date format of choice!! Thank you!
etresoft wrote:
I like to go out and look for critters at low tide. But you really need a more moderate tidal flow for that. San Diego is good for tidal pools. But at least the Bay of Fundy is warmer in the summer. 😄
You used to be able to dig for clams. But, due to over harvesting, pollution and climate change, the population has dwindled and it has been banned. The Economy Clam Festival is no more.
IdrisSeabright wrote:
I, on the other hand, as a young person at that Jersey shore, asked someone how it could be low tide if the water was still there. They thought I was nuts.
I like to go out and look for critters at low tide. But you really need a more moderate tidal flow for that. San Diego is good for tidal pools. But at least the Bay of Fundy is warmer in the summer. 😄
A Norwegian fishing boat came into Parrsboro Harbor in the middle of the night. Ship was tied up and everyone went to sleep. They woke up in the morning. to find the boat resting at an angle in the "cradle" (a wooden frame next to the dock to keep boats from sinking into the mud). Apparently it took a while to calm them all down.
I, on the other hand, as a young person at that Jersey shore, asked someone how it could be low tide if the water was still there. They thought I was nuts.
i want to switch my maps back to gulf of mexico